Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/08/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The less expensive lens, assuming we're talking really minor marks on the front element - and I'd want a return period to run some pixels through the camera...or film in the old days. This is assuming there's a significant savings on an expensive lens. On 8/15/06 9:01 PM, "G Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Fair enough B.D. just a bit of levity in the proceedings ;-) > As I say, I don't know what ROR is. > If you have a choice between two similar lenses, one cheaper but with some > marks that may not affect the output significantly and one pristine but > more > expensive, which one do you buy (to use or collect)? > Cheers > Hoppy > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > B. > D. Colen > Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2006 10:51 > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] Lens caps > > ROR may not carry instructions in German, nor is it branded Zeiss, but it > is > a stunningly good lens cleaner. > > > On 8/15/06 8:39 PM, "G Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > >> Yes Marc, I understand. Most likely you may well get away with it. >> However there is increased risk with any ad hoc material that could have >> grit or similar on it, as we all agree. >> I'm not familiar with ROR (a glass cleaner?) I use a routine recommended > by >> Zeiss (sold in various groovy little kits): >> soft clean brush, some exotic rocket fuel "Optikputzmishung L" and a CLEAN >> microfibre cloth >> Now how can it not be good when it has the Zeiss logo on the side and >> instructions in German ;-) >> Of course you probably can't take it on an airplane any more and /or it >> causes sterility in socialist dolphins or some-such. >> >> Since becoming Zeiss and Leica-ised, I have stopped routinely fitting a UV >> filter for protection. I do understand the pros and cons regarding a >> sacrificial surface vs theoretical possible image degradation. Actually I >> think Erwin is fairly cogent on this subject. >> >> Two comments to finish: >> Since 1972, I have never marked a lens that I can detect (I did drop a >> Yashica TLR the other day and KILLED it) >> >> I never consider paying for a lens with marked elements, however cheap it >> may be and irrespective of whether the results may not be significantly >> affected. >> >> Cheers >> Hoppy >> Amateur enthusiast >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of >> Marc James Small >> Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2006 09:41 >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: RE: Re: [Leica] Lens caps >> >> At 09:19 AM 8/16/06 +1000, G Hopkinson wrote: >>> Don't do it Adam! >>> I'm sure that Walt, Ted and many others are fearless enough to get away >> with >>> this and bring back the great pictures. >>> >>> Here's the litmus test, are you: >>> a. a serious hard hitting photojournalist for whom the gear is just a > tool >>> (If it dies, it dies, it's just a stinkin' camera) or >>> b: an enthusiast photographer who also enjoys the ownership and pleasure >> of >>> having fine Leica equipment >>> (how many sales have you passed on because the seller says, some wipe > marks >>> on the glass) >> >> Hoppy >> >> Modern glasses are REALLY tough. I was shocked, ten or fifteen years > back, >> to be working a camera show with the Zeiss Maven, Charlie Barringer, who >> started cleaning a $4,500 lens with a shirt-tail. I spluttered in > protest, >> and he simply reminded me that the Gnomes of Jena knew what they were > doing >> when they made the lens and also that HE knew what he was doing, and would >> I mind my own washing? >> >> He was absolutely correct. When I have walked across a sandstorm-driven >> wind across an arid desert, then I avoid using my shirt-tail, as I > probably >> have some grit in the cloth. But, beyond that, I go for it. I clean my >> lenses with ROR when they need it and use a Kleenex as the medium -- but, >> in the field, I'll pull out a handkerchief to do the job, and have used >> spit on occasion when that was the only lubricant on hand. >> >> Avoid grit on the lens. Beyond that, modern lens glasses and coatings are >> really tough. >> >> And avoid filters. Erwin Puts disagrees with me on this, but the addition >> of another layer of glass degrades the final image. >> >> Marc >> >> msmall@infi.net Home Phone 540-345-5012 >> Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir! >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information