Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/06/27

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Subject: [Leica] re: armed america -- not wanting your picture taken
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue Jun 27 11:57:14 2006
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On Jun 27, 2006, at 8:45 AM, Kyle Cassidy wrote:

> steve again sagely posited:
>
>> further Kyle, how about those people who like them, want them, and  
>> care
> about them...
>> use them for good, or for bad, or don't use them at all....but don't
> want to advertise these
>> facts with photos, especially sitting in their living rooms... ?
>
> i'm not so much worried about that group, you'd find that anywhere --
> soccer families who don't want their picture taken, cancer  
> survivors who
> don't want their picture taken, etc. most of them are probably well
> enough represented in the demographic that is already being
> photographed. but what is definately getting cut off are the very top
> and the very bottom, the people you've already mentioned, who are
> ambivilant about their guns and don't really care to be  
> photographed and
> the people at the extreme OTHER end of the spectrum who think i am:

your photos are interesting, compelling, and beautifully done  
Kyle.... what is troubling is the highly (Kyle and self) selected and  
then posed nature of them, that inevitably presents a picture of  
people who are willing to,  and given an opportunity to, make some  
point...whatever that point may be...

I am not sure that their real point is even about guns...

it's troubling as...

they may be just as willing to be photographed in their home with a  
baseball glove, a cuisinart, or their penis in their hand...

it may be a point about self selected people who want five minutes of  
fame or notoriety...

Steve


>
>   a) a terrorist surveying america for the best place to launch an
> attack (i kid you not)
>
>   b) an agent of the ATF trying to create a list of gun owners, where
> they live, and what guns they have
>
>   c) in the employ of sarah brady
>
> all of which i've run into. the scariest was the guy who thinks i'm a
> terrorist. he kept threatening to call the FBI and i actually wouldn't
> be suprised if they show up at my door. he was so adamant that the  
> only
> reason i could possibly be doing this was trying to find weak,  
> unarmed,
> areas of america ripe for invasion.
>
> i am really concerned about at this point is the difficulty i've  
> had in
> convincing african americans to participate. as a group, african
> americans do represent a smaller percentage of gun owners, but  
> certianly
> not to the extent that my portfolio now suggests. there's a pervasive
> fear among middle class african american gun owners i've met that  
> either
> intentionally or not, they'll be portrayed as thugs. it's a whole
> 'nother layer of this onion to contend with.
>
>
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Replies: Reply from walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson) ([Leica] re: armed america -- not wanting your picture taken)
In reply to: Message from kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu (Kyle Cassidy) ([Leica] re: armed america -- not wanting your picture taken)