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Subject: [Leica] Re:Panasonic releases the Lumix DMC-L1
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Wed Jun 21 15:02:27 2006
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Boy, is that the truth. The B mode is nice to have for macro work, or 
perhaps for formal portraiture. But the A, real-time live view is what 
makes the E330 special. So all the Panisonic really has is a truly crappy 
viewfinder, analogue controls, and a 'Leica' lens? No wonder Olympus was 
willing to license the technology to them. ;-)


...... Original Message .......
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:31:09 -0700 Richard <richard-lists@imagecraft.com> 
wrote:
>Nope! Well, yes, that's part of it, but they implemented only the "B" 
>liveview mode of the E-330 (except with a clunky autofocus capability). It 
>does not have a secondary CCD, so there is no "A" liveview mode!!!
>
>Some idiots are not using their brains...
>
>At 12:54 PM 6/21/2006, B. D. Colen wrote:
>
>>Wait, Richard - I believe, though I may be wrong, that the only difference
>>between the Panasonic live view and the Olympus live view is that the
>>Panasonic does not swivel out from the back - which is a real draw back.
>>
>>
>>On 6/21/06 3:25 PM, "Richard" <richard-lists@imagecraft.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I hate to actually join in B.D.'s parade to trash Leica :-) but I have 
to
>> > say, from reading the spec and preview, the DMC-L1 is definitely a 
WTF. The
>> > E-330 may possibly be able to get away with a small dim VF because it 
has a
>> > live View CCD, but the -L1 does not have a secondary CCD for liveview
>> > purpose so the liveview cannot be used with autofocus in any 
meaningful way
>> > (additional shutter lag etc.). I suppose Panasonic can always add that 
in
>> > as -L1-MkII or may be that will be Leica DigiLux3's contribution. In 
any
>> > case, definitely a bad decision on someone's part.
>> >
>> > At 09:54 AM 6/21/2006, B. D. Colen wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yup - a pretty crappy excuse for one - same vf system as is in the 
Olympus
>> >> E330 - far too small and dark. However, I am finding that the more I 
>> use it,
>> >> the more I like the "live view finder" - or thinking of it another 
>> way, the
>> >> 'ground glass.'  Coupling this with a near-normal slr body, and
>> >> interchangeable lenses, provides a whole new way of seeing. But don't 
even
>> >> think about that optical viewfinder. ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 6/21/06 1:19 PM, "Christopher Williams" 
<leicachris@worldnet.att.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> So it does have an optical VF.
>> >>>
>> >>> Chris
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Adam Bridge"
>> >>> Subject: [Leica] Panasonic releases the Lumix DMC-L1
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On the Panasonic site there's an interesting discussion of this 
camera
>> >>>> and the Leica/Panasonic lens - although (warning to Frank) it's
>> >>>> marketing so don't get too excited.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Surf to:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> <http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/lumix/>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Then click on "Developers tell the story" which is below the big
>> >>>> picture of the camera at the top left of the page. Vol. 4 deals with
>> >>>> the Leica D Varia-Elmarit lens.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Pricey bugger though and this doesn't even have a red dot on it . . 
>> . yet.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Adam
>> >
>> > // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, 
please
>> > use richard at imagecraft.com)
>> >
>> >
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