Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/06/16

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Subject: [Leica] Re:Digital M vs RD-1
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Fri Jun 16 10:30:43 2006
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George, I don't put down people using large format and looking at screens - 
it just wouldn't work for me. And yes, I find myslelf more and more 
captivated by screen viewing - I literally never use the 'regular' 
viewfinder on the E-330.
As to the comparison of rangefinder, etc., keep in mind that when I bought 
them, my M6s cost less than Nikon F5s or Canon D1s. Further, using 
rangefinder regularly for a number of years retrained my eye to the point 
where I now see and think similarly shooting a DWLR.


...... Original Message .......
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:31:16 -0500 Lottermoser George <imagist3@mac.com> 
wrote:
>On Jun 16, 2006, at 8:55 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:
>> Of course the far more important question is whether it will
>> outperform the full-frame Canon 5D
>
>B.D. - Taking the comparison of the RD1 and DigiM to a comparison  
>with a DSLR really moves away from the point - which remains - a  
>serious digital RF comparison. When you were shooting film, I believe  
>that you preferred the M for all that it offered to etch your vision  
>on to that film, even while many, much less expensive, SLR and other  
>RF, systems would have done just as well. You chose Leica for all  
>sorts of reasons which we all appreciate.
>
>I'm using a 20D and 5D with R glass and occasionally, when  
>appropriate, with C glass. However, I continue to feel the desire to  
>work with RF's and salivate for day when I can add one to my digital  
>work flow. At this moment the only viable choices for a serious  
>digital RF rest with the RD1 and supposedly, soon, a digital M.  
>Period (unless I've missed an announcement).
>
>The "far more important question" is whether it will perform "as well  
>as" not "outperform" the current crop of serious equipment.
>The DMR would suggest that the digiM will do that. Will it do that  
>for the same price point as Olympus or Canon? Never did before.  
>Olympus has always provided a remarkable value; always fine quality  
>at a price below the competition. But when you shot film you used  
>Leica, not Olympus. The price point will be what ever it will be.  
>Those who can afford it will. Those who can't won't. It was true when  
>you chose Leica to make your images. It's true when folks choose  
>'blad, Linhof, BMW, Viking, Lotus, Alpa, whatever. Do I wish that I  
>could afford a truly fine car? Sure. Does my '93 Saturn do all I need  
>it to do? Yes. Is my 5D a serious RF? No. Do I want a serious digital  
>RF? Yes.
>
>Having played with an R9DMR for 15 minutes - I can assure you that,  
>if and when the digiM, appears. it will feel wonderful in your hands,  
>possess a simplicity which the majority of digicams don't, and  
>produce extremely fine images. I say this because that's what Leica  
>has always done (with the exception of the R-3 - don't get me started  
>on that error). Even the Digilux1 did what it did with elegance (I  
>miss the little thing). And when I expressed my delight in working  
>with it's (at the time) huge screen, similar to working with medium  
>or large format ground glass; you put me, and others looking at their  
>screens, down. Now that you have found the benefits of doing the same  
>thing with the 330 - it's the greatest thing since the bayonet lens  
>mount.
>
>Relax. Enjoy the range of options and price points ;-)
>
>Regards,
>George Lottermoser
>george@imagist.com
>
>
>
>
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In reply to: Message from wrs111445 at yahoo.com (Bill Smith) ([Leica] Digital M vs RD-1)
Message from leicachris at worldnet.att.net (Christopher Williams) ([Leica] Re:Digital M vs RD-1)
Message from bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] Re:Digital M vs RD-1)
Message from imagist3 at mac.com (Lottermoser George) ([Leica] Re:Digital M vs RD-1)