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Subject: [Leica] What's the Best All-Around 50?
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Fri May 12 14:28:39 2006

It doesn't just apply to journalism though - it's beginning to be a lost
reference point for all photography. The average kid today may never have
been in a darkroom. Think about it - what the hell do "burn" and "dodge"
mean - on the PS tools - if you've never done real darkroom work? :-)


On 5/12/06 1:38 PM, "Philippe Orlent" <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote:

> I agree. If it's about journalism.
> 
> 
> Op 12-mei-06, om 19:34 heeft B. D. Colen het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> You think you're joking, Philippe - just a couple of hours ago I was
>> skimming a column in a national press photographer's association
>> magazine in
>> which a photography teacher at, as I recall, the University of
>> Arkansas said
>> that they are now two years past the last class of graduates to
>> have ever
>> spent time in a real darkroom. And that, he said, begins to raise
>> havoc with
>> what has been the standard ethical guideline regarding the use of
>> photoshop
>> - only do to the image in photoshop what you would normally have
>> done in a
>> darkroom; or only except from a photoshopped image what you would have
>> accepted from the darkroom. But if today's photographers think a
>> darkroom is
>> their bedroom with the lights off....
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/12/06 1:11 PM, "Philippe Orlent" <philippe.orlent@pandora.be>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dodging? That's the 7th down from the 2nd row of 'tools', right?
>>> 
>>> Just adding a ;-) to be sure.
>>> 
>>> Op 12-mei-06, om 19:05 heeft Rei Shinozuka het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>>> it's a very handsome photo otherwise, maybe dodging the surrounding
>>>> areas would rescue the image.  (doesn't the phrase "dodging"
>>>> today sound almost quaint?)
>>>> 
>>>> i have noticed that something approaching 100% of real-life "bad
>>>> bokeh"
>>>> examples are of vegetation; mostly tree branches or leaves.  so keep
>>>> those bad bokesters away from wildlife!
>>>> 
>>>> -rei
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/12/06 12:39 PM, "Nathan Wajsman" <nathan@nathanfoto.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well Daniel, with such subject matter one can tolerate many
>>>>>> things...but
>>>>>> that bokeh is indeed not very attractive.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Daniel Ridings wrote:
>>>>>>> A lot of people puke at my Rolleicord's bokeh (under certain
>>>>>>> circumstances ... close focus, pretty much wide-open).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.dlridings.se/gallery/v/informal/
>>>>>>> v15-0002-43264.jpg.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com
>>>> Ridgewood, New Jersey
>>>> 
>>>> 
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