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Subject: [Leica] A bit of Margritte?
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Sun May 7 09:43:32 2006
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Philippe Orlent wrote:

> Which brings us back to the once and a while popping up basic  
> discussion about photography: does making a photograph is less good  
> than taking one?
> Why should one know how a photograph was made, unless if it's to  
> check that it's not messing around with facts? Which only has a good  
> purpose if it's about reportage IMO, where the only issue is to  
> reproduce reality.
>
A bit late on this thread, it was a lovely day for sitting in the garden 
drinking Campari/orange juice and playing Scrabble.

To misquote Shakespeare "Reality is in the eye of the beholder" ie 
believe what you like, but don't question what the artist is doing - 
which is what Rene Magritte is all about.
Now, if you had put a mysterious bowler hat or a stone bird in the shot 
too.......... ;-)  The camera, the lens, photoshop (or similar) are all 
only tools to get
to what you personally visualise, how you do it is nobody's business 
except your own, when you get down to the basics of it.
Of course it's fascinating to hear the one trick or another being used, 
but, IMO it's just not right to criticeise the "honesty" or 
"authenticity" of what is being shown  - the image is there and it is 
what it is - full stop..
Reportage  is still only an interpretation of perceived reality from the 
POV of the photographer  - think of how much the message of a picture 
can be changed
totally only by the choice of a different lens, by a higher or lower 
vantage point. I could easily walk around Hannover (a pleasant and clean 
provincial city) and take a series of shots which would show that the 
place is a slum, a depressed area, a racial hot-spot, or whatever else - 
but this would have absolutely nothing to do with the reality of the 
city where I live.
Douglas

>
>
> Op 7-mei-06, om 17:50 heeft Walt Johnson het volgende geschreven:
>
>> Philippe:
>>
>> Damn, why did you have to tell us that? I was a little perplexed by  
>> the scale but assumed the moon just looked bigger in your part of  
>> the world. First rule of thumb for any Leica shooter is:
>>
>> 1. Even if I fake it I will deny it with such conviction I begin to  
>> believe myself.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> Philippe Orlent wrote:
>>
>>> Don: Margritte is a Belgian surrealist painter who used the moon  
>>> (and  clouds) a lot in his work.
>>> Luis: it is a double exposure, if one could still call it that in  
>>> the  PS era. No retraceable pixels on the dark side though.
>>>
>>> Thank you all that already looked and commented,
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Op 7-mei-06, om 16:24 heeft Don Dory het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>> Philippe,
>>>> I don't know about Magritte, but still a pleasing composition.
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>> don.dory@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/7/06, Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dunno...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.fullflavor.be/photography/_DSC0124.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments are welcomed.
>>>>> Thanks for looking,
>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>
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