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Subject: [Leica] My PAW Wk13
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Thu Mar 30 05:48:35 2006
References: <000901c653c0$e69887e0$0201a8c0@MADS> <0CD8EDC0-88DC-460B-9658-3D21EEA8F63D@pandora.be>

Philippe:

I told you it would escape many.

Walt

Philippe Orlent wrote:

> Mads,
>
> Sorry, but this is a real and unmerged image. What you see was there  
> as it was, whatever feeling that might evoke.
> I removed the mast on this shot though: http://www.fullflavor.be/ 
> photography/HMSWM/slides/HMSWM2.html
> because it bothered the image. Some buildings in the background were  
> removed, too.
>
> About the WM: I wrongly (but with a certain logic) assumed that it  
> was an abbreviation of HMS Westminster, as the frigat is called. The  
> helicopter is a Merlin indeed. I read it replaced the Sea King, a  
> helicopter still flying in our own army.
> A shot from somebody else: www.havengore.com/HMSWestminster.jpg. The  
> pole is there. Maybe it is removed pre take-off?
>
> Now about the merging thing: you make it sound as if I'm tampering.
> I have repeatedly stated that I postprocess my images in PS, because  
> I consider myself more as a 'maker' than as a 'taker'.
> This can involve changing color, contrast, taking things out,  
> changing or adding grain, dodging and buring, moving things  slightly, 
> ... On some very rare occasions it means adding things that  were not 
> there. And if I do the latter, I always mention it.
> Long threads have been written about this methodology/my and others  
> standpoint: a minority on this list is pro.
> As I walk around and visualise things while shooting, I very often  
> decide to modify an image in PS because I think it will make it more  
> as what I see in my head. I call it 'boosting an image'.
> More even, sometimes I just construct images photographically. And I  
> do not have a problem with that, not considering myself a reporter.
> Does that make me a great photographer?
> I don't know, and honestly, I don't really mind. I just want to make  
> images that have a certain stopping power with people, and I love to  
> use the camera as the tool to make them.
> Do I need a Leica for that? Since it's a great tool, I think so, yes.  
> But it is not the only camera that I use. As I also mention when  
> posting.
>
> Finally, about truth in photography: since its early beginnings, this  
> is an ongoing theme in this discipline. One can even wonder if truth  
> really exists. But that is another story.
>
> I hope this clears some things out.
>
> Also: a big thank you to everybody that commented on this image.  
> Sometimes you try to tell a story without too many words, and it is a  
> real pleasure to see that some saw in it what I had in mind.
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
> Op 30-mrt-06, om 08:12 heeft Mads Christensen het volgende geschreven:
>
>> Sorry for being a bit late but I am on the LUG digest only.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have two comments:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) WM = A helicopter named Merlin, manufactured by Agusta Westland
>> Helicopters Ltd., Yeovil, England.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2) I am absolutely sure that there are no masts w/o the Royal Navy  
>> flag that
>> close to the helicopter pad on a navy vessel - as seen on HMSWM2.
>>
>>
>>
>> ..so I am afraid that Philippe has been merging images - again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Mads
>>
>>
>>
>>
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