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Subject: [Leica] Remember when ...?
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Tue Mar 21 10:41:33 2006
References: <a2f8f4470603201105p3c2628ddv91f1843ffa917889@mail.gmail.com> <12BE10A9-24D5-463B-BE37-99E8753CA58C@pandora.be> <a2f8f4470603202325n73f33f8ckac7b4d8ee56445a8@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Daniel.
I will cerainly try this out.
Philippe



Op 21-mrt-06, om 08:25 heeft Daniel Ridings het volgende geschreven:

> On 3/20/06, Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote:
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> First one is wonderful. I'd even crop something of the left to get
>> full emphasis on Rebecca.
>> BTW, how do you get the TX to look so grainless? I saw you developed
>> it in HC-110 and tried it myself with 6,5 minutes in dilution E this
>> weekend, but the grain still is very apparent.
>
> Philippe, I _have_ tried HC-110 in the past without getting the result
> I wanted. Marty whispered in my ear that I would probably never be
> able to get it either. I like HC-110 on just about everything else,
> but Tri-X gets too harsh.
>
> So this was processed in Xtol. I alternate between Xtol, HC-110 and
> D76 depending on film and situation.
>
> Maybe it's just me, but I find Xtol and 400TX just a tad too soft to
> my liking. Perhaps I should lengthen the time a bit to get some snap.
> On the other hand, D76 1:1 seems to be returning more and more as a
> favorite. It works with so much. I had been using D76 with Fomapan and
> still had some Xtol in stock. I was really satisfied with D76 1:1 and
> 400TX (kind of a tried and true combination so I wasn't being very
> daring) but had that Xtol still in stock. I mixed it up a couple of
> months ago so I didn't want it to sit around. So I developed this roll
> of Tri-X in Xtol 1:2 for 12 1/2 minutes (Tri-X exposed at closer to
> 800 than 400, but not quite 800).
>
> I think some of my success depends on an agitation technique I picked
> up from a guy name John Hicks (not sure about the John part, but I
> know his last name is Hicks) over at photo.net a few years ago.
>
> I was having problems with uneven development in 120 size. The edges
> of my films were darker than the rest. Here's a sample:
>
> http://www.rollei-gallery.net/ridings/folder-7519.html
>
> The explanation was too little development. At the time I was using a
> 4-reel (135) tank / 2-reel (120) tank and processing 4 or 2 rolls at a
> time. I was filling the tank.
>
> He pointed out that this was not letting the developer flow around
> enough and the exhausted developer was gathering at the edges of the
> reels.
>
> The easiest cure (the solution is to get the developer moving around
> by agitation) was to develop halv as many rolls as the tank would
> hold, placing empty reels on top and pouring in just enough developer
> to cover the bottom reels with film on them.
>
> Then just agitate normally. Two inversions of the tank every 30
> seconds. Those inversions would allow the developer to flow off the
> film into the empty space and then when you turn back, the film would
> be covered with fresh developer.
>
> Every since then I have been having good luck with my processing. My
> skies, in medium format, have an even density across the whole frame
> and it even seems to benefit 35mm.
>
> I'm not sure if you need to limit yourself to just half the number of
> films. I suspect that three rolls in a four reel tank with only one
> empty reel would work out about the same. It's the empty space that
> gives the developer some breathing room that helps.
>
> Daniel
>
>
>> Not that I don't like that, but I also like the B&W look of your
>> photographs.
>>
>> Thanks for showing,
>> Philippe
>>
>>
>>
>> Op 20-mrt-06, om 20:05 heeft Daniel Ridings het volgende geschreven:
>>
>>> Remember when the kids were young and we could pack them into the
>>> back-seat and head out on a little field trip?
>>>
>>> Ewa, my wife, and I got a little sentimental. We gave them 20  
>>> minutes
>>> warning (in order to save their games etc) and then an order to pack
>>> themselves into the backseat of the Renault Clio.
>>>
>>> Now a Clio isn't big. We quit buying big cars because we rarely  
>>> made a
>>> long trip all five at the same time. It's a little car ... and the
>>> kiddies are no longer little runts. They're 20, 18 and 16.
>>>
>>> But they have enough sense not to fight with us when they know
>>> we're serious.
>>>
>>> So they packed in. Really needed that 20 on the M3 ... but the 35  
>>> had
>>> to do today. I just had to take three shots to take them all in:
>>>
>>> http://www.dlridings.se/gallery/v/shoebox/ 
>>> 2006v12/06v12-0003.jpg.html
>>>
>>> Sure, it's cramped ... but "yes", "you have to have a seatbelt"
>>> (actually, we didn't need to point that out):
>>>
>>> http://www.dlridings.se/gallery/v/shoebox/ 
>>> 2006v12/06v12-0001.jpg.html
>>>
>>> Rebecca is the youngest, so her big brothers make her sit in the
>>> middle:
>>>
>>> http://www.dlridings.se/gallery/v/shoebox/ 
>>> 2006v12/06v12-0002.jpg.html
>>>
>>> Then off we went and surprized them with an excellent Sunday  
>>> dinner at
>>> a decent restaurant (not too far away ... they were kind of  
>>> cramped).
>>>
>>> M3, 35/2.0 Summicron and 400TX.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
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