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Subject: [Leica] 3 odd B&W shots from Long Beach
From: bruce at ralgo.nl (bruce)
Date: Tue Mar 7 10:09:08 2006
References: <4cfa589b0603062307t71843fa0g4fe57fbf7a4faf56@mail.gmail.com> <C011DEDA-90FB-4B1D-B9EB-96E0B17951DE@ralgo.nl> <4cfa589b0603070754w3bf6af6btfd8eb271a14bd720@mail.gmail.com> <E46C2CA6-31B9-45B9-8B8A-03180B9319CF@ralgo.nl> <4cfa589b0603070943p723e5fecka492dc6f965a7c2b@mail.gmail.com>

To me, 78 is a considerable sharpening ............. not a great  
deal, but ...............

B.

On 7-mrt-2006, at 18:43, Adam Bridge wrote:

> Oh - I mean that when I down-sampled the image in photoshop from it's
> 4000 dpi version to make a 72 dpi version I do a small bit of
> sharpening, with unsharp mask, because it's needed. But when I do that
> I click back and forth between preview on and off looking at the main
> image. If I see a marked difference I tone it down until I see just a
> HINT of the sharpening, usually in the very high-contrast areas.
>
> Right now it's not easy for me to go back to the final image and pull
> up the history in Photoshop so I can see what I did, but when I get
> back and can do it, I'll check and see if I mucked around too much.
>
> Still, these are very sharp images when they were printed on my Epson
> 4000, especially that big brick building.
>
> Thank you for your observations and for sharing them. I appreciate the
> feedback on such prosaic images.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam
>
>
> On 3/7/06, bruce <bruce@ralgo.nl> wrote:
>> Overly sharp horizontals and verticals especially ................
>> but all images look super super crisp.
>>
>> Could of course be, that they are extra-sharp, carefully exposed with
>> excellent contrast, exceptionally well scanned, not diddled in
>> PS ............... what do you mean by "except for the last bit"?
>>
>> B.
>> On 7-mrt-2006, at 16:54, Adam Bridge wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmmm - there was a BIT of unsharp mask done when they were reduced
>>> for the web but it hardly showed to my eye - which is about how I do
>>> it. What are you seeing that leads you to think that? I know the
>>> night-time image has virtually no sharpening at all except for the
>>> last bit which would be about 78 and radius of .8 in Photoshop.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input - I'll look at the workflow and see if I did
>>> something odd.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On 3/7/06, bruce <bruce@ralgo.nl> wrote:
>>>> To me, they all have excessive unsharp mask, Adam. Please comment.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise a great series of well composed images. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> B.
>>>>
>>>> On 7-mrt-2006, at 8:07, Adam Bridge wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is a very strange posting because the images aren't anything
>>>>> special and yet I like different things about all three of them -
>>>>> all
>>>>> related to the use of black and white film, in particular Tri X.
>>>>>
>>>>> This image was shot from our hotel home across the hotel parking
>>>>> structure to this building across the street. The old-time fire
>>>>> escape
>>>>> and the textures of the brick really spoke to me. Printed large
>>>>> there's a huge amount of detail in this image that the small  
>>>>> version
>>>>> that you see only hints at. It was shot at 1/1000th of a  
>>>>> second, I'm
>>>>> sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.adambridge.com/Photos/2006/02/23/TX400-002-R1.jpg>
>>>>>
>>>>> The inside of the Long Beach Convention Center spoke to me - the
>>>>> receding arches of the ceiling, so bright, all these wonderful
>>>>> gradations. This catches that ceiling.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.adambridge.com/Photos/2006/02/23/TX400-004-R1.jpg>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've always wanted an evening shot. As we were crossing Ocean  
>>>>> Ave to
>>>>> the hotel from the convention center the sky was still luminous  
>>>>> and
>>>>> there was this illuminated bank building across the street so I
>>>>> snapped a couple of images. This was probably about 1/30th of a
>>>>> second.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.adambridge.com/Photos/2006/02/23/TX400-030-R1.jpg>
>>>>>
>>>>> All the images are on Tri X at 400, processed in XTOL 1:3 at 68
>>>>> degrees with my own agitation scheme of 30 seconds continuous, 4
>>>>> minutes every 30 seconds, 4 minutes ever minute and 4 minutes
>>>>> every 2
>>>>> minutes. Maybe it makes a difference, maybe it doesn't, but I
>>>>> like the
>>>>> look of the negative I get from it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shot with M6TTL and either the 50mm f2 or the 35mm f2.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your comments are invited and welcome. Maybe these speak to you,
>>>>> maybe
>>>>> they don't. I was uncertain about whether to post them but  
>>>>> figured -
>>>>> ah heck - what's a few snapshots amongst friends and I might learn
>>>>> something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam Bridge
>>>>>
>>>>>
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