Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/01/16

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Subject: Noisy digital shadows - was: Re: [Leica] re: digital treadmill
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Mon Jan 16 17:24:52 2006

But it's not just adjustment with PS or development time, David, there's
simply more 'there there' in the shadows of the digital image.


On 1/16/06 7:41 PM, "David Rodgers" <drodgers@casefarms.com> wrote:

> I think I know what you mean. When I shoot digital I'm more worried
> about losing highlight detail, so I underexpose. The shadows look dark,
> but can be pulled out in PS. It's almost magical how they can just
> appear. 
> 
> I take the opposite approach when shooting bw film. I expose for the
> shadows. But I can't just tweak the highlights by adjusting a slider. I
> have to adjust development.
> 
> DaveR
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: B. D. Colen [mailto:bdcolen@comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:57 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: Noisy digital shadows - was: Re: [Leica] re: digital
> treadmill
> 
> I'm sure I can't explain it correctly, David, all I can tell you is that
> my
> standard iso with film and digital is 800 - I do a tremendous amount of
> shooting in crappy light. And I am getting more shadow details with
> digital
> than I got with film. And every photographer I've spoken to off this
> list
> who shoots in similar circumstances has noted the same thing. I believe
> we've had this discussion here before, and one of our technostars
> explained
> this. 
> 
> 
> On 1/16/06 4:03 PM, "David Rodgers" <drodgers@casefarms.com> wrote:
> 
>> B.D. 
>> 
>>>> ....one of the reasons that I've gone with digital, is that
>> digital tends to capture more information in low light than does
> film.<<
>> 
>> You're going to have to explain that one to me. I always though that
> the
>> amount of information in low light -- or "shadow detail" for those of
> us
>> in the Pleistocene Era -- depended on exposure? As far as I know
>> negative film still beats a DSLR in dynamic range.
>> 
>> DaveR
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Replies: Reply from s.dimitrov at charter.net (Slobodan Dimitrov) (Noisy digital shadows - was: Re: [Leica] re: digital treadmill)
In reply to: Message from drodgers at casefarms.com (David Rodgers) (Noisy digital shadows - was: Re: [Leica] re: digital treadmill)