Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/01/12

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Subject: [Leica] Adox and Efke
From: jsmith342 at cox.net (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Thu Jan 12 13:42:16 2006

I used to use H&W Control Pan and Technical Pan, and there just aren't any 
readily available replacements for them. I think that Adox/Efke films in the 
25 ISO speed are going to be as grainless as you can find at the moment. I'm 
going to fiddle with these using some Pyro developers.

And I'm dusting off my monopod. I have found that there is a bigger 
improvement between handheld and monopod than between monopod and tripod. 
I'm also going to start carrying my beanbag with me.

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> 
> From: bruce <bruce@ralgo.nl>
> Date: 2006/01/12 Thu PM 04:23:22 EST
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Adox and Efke
> 
> May we also get an idea?
> 
> B.
> 
> On 12-jan-2006, at 22:17, David Rodgers wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Chris.
> >
> > I've gotten so accustomed to 400 speed films that I'm not sure how I'd
> > do with a slow film. But you can't have everything. There are times  
> > when
> > I want some grain. There are times when I don't.
> >
> > MF is no longer an option. I've sold everything (except for a
> > Rolleiflex). I'm committed to 35mm and Leica M for bw.
> >
> > I'm looking for a replacement film for Tech Pan. I recently scanned  
> > some
> > 35mm Tech Pan negs. Even at 5400 dpi there's virtually no grain. 13x19
> > prints on an HP 8750 look exceptional.
> >
> > DaveR
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Saganich [mailto:chs2018@med.cornell.edu]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:41 AM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Adox and Efke
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> > I've been using Efke film for a couple years.  KB25 35mm and KB100  
> > 120.
> > I
> > find the kb25 to be more contrasty then say my old APX25 stock, but
> > workable with the right developer.
> >
> > KB25 I've tried Rodinol which works well but loses speed.  I've run it
> > ASA
> > 12, 1:50, 4-4.5 minutes for an N. full range negative.  The highlight
> > texture is very smooth like a staining developer.
> >
> > Kb25 in a home Butler formula 1:1:100.  I found this to be difficult
> > where
> > the highlights showed considerable blocking despite all my best  
> > efforts.
> >
> > KB25 Roll in Pyrocat HD.  Good combination for normal and stand
> > development.  Really controls the highlights and there some speed
> > reduction.
> >
> > KB25 and HC110.  Overall good combination.  Highlight control works  
> > well
> >
> > and contrast can be controlled by dilution.  A decade difference in
> > dilution is about one stop contrast in either direction.
> >
> > Kb100 Beutler, D-23, Pyrocat HD, similar results as KB25.
> >
> > I recently developed KB100 Roll in Pyro and the results were very nice
> > with
> > little to no speed loss.
> >
> > My choice these days is HC110 for everything.  I do recommend the
> > Rocinol
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > At 09:05 AM 1/12/2006, you wrote:
> >> Jeffrey,
> >>
> >> What are you using as a developer? I'm wondering how many people are
> >> using Adox/Efke films? And what are the likes/dislikes?
> >>
> >> I shot some Fomapan a few years ago and thought it looked horrendous.
> >> But sometimes it takes more than a couple of rolls to figured out a
> > film
> >> the first upon using it for the first time.
> >>
> >> DaveR
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jeffery Smith [mailto:jsmith342@cox.net]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:22 PM
> >> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> >> Subject: RE: [Leica] nikon to discontinue most film cameras
> >>
> >> As long as somewhere in the Slavic world someone is making Adox  
> >> KB-14,
> >> I'll
> >> keep shooting film.
> >>
> >> Jeffery Smith
> >> New Orleans, LA
> >> http://www.400tx.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > Chris Saganich, Sr. Physicist
> > Weill Medical College of Cornell University
> > New York Presbyterian Hospital
> >
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> > Fax. 212.746.4800
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> >
> >
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Jeffery