Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/12/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Well, why don't you answer that question then. Obviously you have an answer for it. I think that any conflict of interest raises questions. Sometimes legitimately, while at other times it tends to over reach. The best guide for a discussion is in the very term, the free press as it's associated with freedom of speech. Initially, freedom of speech was only applied to publications that were not defined as 'advertisers'. The framers correctly inferred that by having a published work depend on the revenues of the advertisers would jeopardize its ability to speak freely. If there was a capability of using financial support as a threat for editorial content guidance, then it circumscribed that freedom by its very possibility. Traditionally, the business community used foundations as a method of creating distance for the sake of propriety and appearances. That has recently eroded to a virtually non-existent line. A case in point is NPR. At one time, one could see in the past a different approach with its underwriting. The term 'underwriting' alone speaks volumes. I think now we can see a radical departure from those practices that were once attuned to the public's concerns over its prerogatives, i.e. an uninhibited environment where speech can direct itself wherever the public mood sees it fit to go, without hindrance. Another area of business support has been in the academic area. In the past it has been somewhat benignly applied. However, there has been concerns of late, where a department's endowment of chairs and the like are making them vulnerable to issues surrounding intellectual property rights. Apparently even an instructor's class notes, by which they lecture their classes, and often times are used for publication, can be encumbered as a property of the donating entity. As we well know, the slippery slope doesn't fall toward the morally grounded side, it tends to fall in the direction of utilitarian concerns and the fiscally expedient. Slobodan Dimitrov Studio G-8, Angels Gate Cultural Center http://sdimitrovphoto.com On Dec 6, 2005, at 8:24 AM, B. D. Colen wrote: > Why is it any better to have one university 'control' all of > academic style > than it is to have the AP control newspaper style - if you want to > call it > control? And as Sonny quite correctly pointed out, the AP is a > cooperative > made up of all its member newspapers, so it's really a case of most > newspapers agreeing on matters of style. > > > On 12/6/05 10:54 AM, "Slobodan Dimitrov" <s.dimitrov@charter.net> > wrote: > >> Ys, but there is something less onerous about a university's >> involvement. >> >> Slobodan Dimitrov >> Studio G-8, >> Angels Gate Cultural Center >> http://sdimitrovphoto.com >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 6, 2005, at 7:23 AM, B. D. Colen wrote: >> >>> But what's your point? Try getting a masters or Ph.D without >>> using the >>> Chicago Manual of Style... >>> >>> >>> On 12/5/05 4:36 PM, "Slobodan Dimitrov" <s.dimitrov@charter.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I gladly stand corrected. However, try graduating with a degree in >>>> print journalism without following AP's published guidelines. >>>> >>>> Slobodan Dimitrov >>>> Studio G-8, >>>> Angels Gate Cultural Center >>>> http://sdimitrovphoto.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 5, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Sonny Carter wrote: >>>> >>>>> AP is a cooperative, not a corporation. TV Stations, radio >>>>> stations or >>>>> newspapers are members of AP and pay fees to use stuff, and are >>>>> paid >>>>> fees when they supply news pieces. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sonny Carter >>>>> http://www.sonc.com, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Digital Imaging Specialist >>>>> Cammie G. Henry Research Center >>>>> Northwestern State University of Louisiana >>>>> Natchitoches, LA >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: lug-bounces+cartersn=nsula.edu@leica-users.org >>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+cartersn=nsula.edu@leica-users.org] On Behalf >>>>> Of B. >>>>> D. Colen >>>>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:16 PM >>>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Salgado' s work >>>>> >>>>> Absolutely not, the whore agreed.;-) However...not textbooks, >>>>> Slobodan, >>>>> just a manual of style. And given that it's used by most >>>>> newspapers, >>>>> because they belong to the AP and use its copy, and is used by >>>>> many >>>>> other publications as well, it makes sense to use it in J schools. >>>>> Hardly corporate control though, in the sense that you're >>>>> implying. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/5/05 1:41 PM, "Slobodan Dimitrov" <s.dimitrov@charter.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey, there's nothing wrong with a journalist being on the take. >>>>>> Oops, >>>>>> I meant to say...in participating with a product manufacture's >>>>>> informational campaign. >>>>>> After all, don't they have to pass college courses in >>>>>> journalism by >>>>>> using textbooks and guidelines printed by a corporation called >>>>>> AP. >>>>>> So, why stop at graduation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Slobodan Dimitrov >>>>>> Studio G-8, >>>>>> Angels Gate Cultural Center >>>>>> http://sdimitrovphoto.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 5, 2005, at 8:04 AM, Ted Grant wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Slobodan Dimitrov offered: >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Salgado' s work >>>>>>>>>> Funny how that works. >>>>>>>> When a photographer thinks a project is important enough, they >>>>>>>> go a >>>>> >>>>>>>> up a format, and down a technology.<< >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Slobodan, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd almost put money on the table he's received financial >>>>>>> support of >>>>>>> some kind to use other than the Leica. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ted >>>>>>> Ted Grant Photography Limited >>>>>>> 1817 Feltham Road >>>>>>> Victoria BC V8N 2A4 >>>>>>> 250-477-2156 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information