Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/09/30

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Subject: [Leica] DMR at 1600 iso
From: leica at robsteve.com (Robert Stevens)
Date: Fri Sep 30 11:21:44 2005
References: <6.2.3.4.2.20050930105226.0489ca20@mail.robsteve.com> <BF62BF9F.6041%bdcolen@comcast.net> <6.2.3.4.2.20050930132416.048ae470@mail.robsteve.com> <007901c5c5dd$ee164b90$6101a8c0@jimnichols> <6.2.3.4.2.20050930143351.048ac310@mail.robsteve.com> <433D7B4F.2070408@telus.net>

I just did a bit more work on the same two files.

I opened them both with the Adobe Camera Raw, but for the Leica one, 
I adjusted up the noise reduction and luminance smoothing 
sliders.  The Canon camera has a much more capable processor and a 
lot of this is done in camera.

I cropped the files to show the dark shadow under the furnace.  I 
also down sized the Leica crop, so it was about the same width as the 
Canon file.  B.D. is correct that the Canon has much less noise, as 
shown by the examples below.   Look at the tool marks on the brass 
fitting.  The Leica seems to have the edge here.

http://www.robsteve.com/DMR/CanLeica1600.jpg


  Isn't the over all quality of the finished print more important 
than the noise we can see on our monitors?  With people and and 
within the limits of the DMR, I think the DMR makes the better 
print.  I have a 5x7 print of my son from the 1600 iso shot and it 
looks no different than a print from 400 speed film.

Regards,

Robert


At 02:52 PM 9/30/2005, you wrote:

>Robert Stevens wrote:
>
>>I just posted using the camera file names.  The one starting with a 
>>"L" is the Leica.  It was the second file on my original post.
>>
>>Here is the Leica:
>>
>>http://www.robsteve.com/DMR/L%201020850.jpg
>>
>>Here is the Canon.
>>
>>http://www.robsteve.com/DMR/KX5T7819.jpg
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Robert
>
>
>I am red-faced.  I picked the better shot, but attributed it to the 
>wrong Camera!
>
>Robert, I am VERY impressed!  Thanks for doing this... it has been 
>very illuminating!
>
>For me, however, it's "open mouth  -  insert foot  - chew vigorously!"
>
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