Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/09/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]B.D.: Just to see if there really is any huge difference between a 1D MK II and a DMR, I went down to my dark basement and using a tripod, I shot my furnace with both the DMR and a 1D Mk II. Both had their respective 50mm f1.4 lenses and the exposure was about 1/2 a second at f2.8 and 1600 iso. AWB set on both camera. http://www.robsteve.com/DMR/KX5T7819.jpg http://www.robsteve.com/DMR/L%201020850.jpg I resized them so the burner was about the same size in each image. This is full frame from both. Regards, Robert At 11:10 AM 9/30/2005, B. D. Colen wrote: >With that lighting, it's about equivalent to, or a touch better than the >E-1, which is no winner in the noise at 800 and above department. But the >E-1 body, not back, is available from B&H for $999 - and it is as solidly >built, as well sealed against dust and water, as the top-of-the-line Canon >and Nikon pro bodies. And, having used the camera for two years now I have >yet to have to clean the sensor, because Olympus's autoclean gizmo really >does work. > >As to the look of the Canon's at 1600 and 3200, Robert, I have to disagree >to their description as looking plastic. Does noise reduction result in a >trade off in terms of some detail? Yes. But if the noise is a distraction, >it's a trade-off worth making. > >Further, with all due respect, I would hardly describe the last couple >images you've posted as being "punchy" in terms of colors. > > > > >On 9/30/05 9:57 AM, "Robert Stevens" <leica@robsteve.com> wrote: > > > How does it compare to the Olympus? > > > > I have a MkII, it may seem to have less noise, but the pictures don't > > have the punch the Leica has. I think a lot of the digitals clobber > > the noise and people start to get a plastic look. > > > > This thread has a 3200 asa shot from a 20D. The model looks like a > > plastic doll. I think if I wanted to invest in Noise Ninja, I could > > bring down the noise level of the DMR 1600 iso files, but at the cost > > of detail. > > > > http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/286603 > > > > Here is a link right to the picture. > > > > http://www.jasonjenkins.com/gallery/albums/2005_0924t/2005_0924_1959472.jpg > > > > Regards, > > > > Robert > > > > > > Robert > > > > At 10:43 AM 9/30/2005, you wrote: > > > >> Lovely shot, Robert - but noise that you wouldn't see in a Canon > 20D or MKII > >> at even 3200, particularly in a virtually shadowless shot. > >> > >> > >> On 9/30/05 9:12 AM, "Robert Stevens" <leica@robsteve.com> wrote: > >> > >>> This is from this morning. I was in my favorite coffee shop and > >>> decided to try a few shots at 1600 iso. I am also going to try this > >>> as a print at the one hour shot to see how it looks. > >>> > >>> http://www.robsteve.com/DMR/L1020840.jpg > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Robert > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: > >> 9/23/2005 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 9/23/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 9/23/2005