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Subject: [Leica] Nathan's PAW 37: Sailing around Friesland with a fellowLUGger
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Thu Sep 29 14:39:48 2005

B.D.,
I think we mean the same thing, but that I call it shallow (probably wrong),
and you deep (probably right).
As the message should clarify, thought, even without this lingual katatony,
the barge would have been more blurred with the same lens on an analog and a
digital, no?


> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@comcast.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:12:37 -0400
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Conversation: [Leica] Nathan's PAW 37: Sailing around Friesland with a
> fellowLUGger
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nathan's PAW 37: Sailing around Friesland with a
> fellowLUGger
> 
> What shallower depth of field, Philippe? It's greater depth of field,
> because if you're shooting with a camera with, let's say, a 1.6
> magnification factor, and using a 21 as a "35," you're getting a 35 mm
> perspective, but the depth of field of a 21, so it's proportionally
> increased depth of field.
> 
> 
> On 9/29/05 4:53 PM, "Philippe Orlent" <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote:
> 
>> True. A bit wider, cropped to the right to get the black barge out (or
>> blurred), and it would have been perfect. The discussion about whether or
>> not B&W would be more suited is just a personal one.
>> But I have a question, though:
>> 
>> Nathan, I suspect you used digital. Don't know if it was zoomed or with a
>> fixed focal lenght lens. But I imagine you shot it fairly open. Do you 
>> find
>> the shallower DOF of non-full sensor digital sometimes (as in this shot)
>> restricting when not combined with the full possibilities of PS? In such a
>> situation, I would not hesitiate to take the barge out or blur it, that's
>> why.
>> 
>> Philippe
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Luis Ripoll <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:08:46 +0200
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Nathan's PAW 37: Sailing around Friesland with a
>>> fellowLUGger
>>> 
>>> Nathan,
>>> 
>>> I like this one very much, I find it amazing
>>> 
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_37alt8.jpg
>>> 
>>> Saludos cordiales,
>>> Luis
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org]En nombre 
>>> de
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Enviado el: jueves, 29 de septiembre de 2005 16:24
>>> Para: LEG; Leica Users Group
>>> Asunto: [Leica] Nathan's PAW 37: Sailing around Friesland with a
>>> fellowLUGger
>>> 
>>> Earlier this year, after I had posted some photographs from Friesland,
>>> LUGger Michiel Fokkema kindly invited me to experience his native region
>>> from the water. After some schedule juggling we finally were able to
>>> make it this month. So on a Sunday morning we met in the harbour of the
>>> town of Heeg, climbed on board a beautiful wooden sailboat and set out.
>>> Michiel was doing all the work, so I was free to look and take pictures.
>>> 
>>> Here is Michiel:
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_37.jpg
>>> ...and the boat:
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_37alt1.jpg
>>> Michiel explained to me that this kind of traditional boat is becoming
>>> quite rare since they are expensive to buy and maintain. They are built
>>> especially for the shallow waters of the inland seas. The one we were
>>> using dates from the 1920s. It has many beautiful details, like this:
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_37alt2.jpg
>>> 
>>> The weather was decidedly iffy...
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_37alt3.jpg
>>> but we set out anyway:
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_37alt4.jpg
>>> 
>>> It was obvious that Michiel is a very experienced sailor--a good thing,
>>> since sailing such a boat involves a lot of work:
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_37alt5.jpg
>>> For example, lowering the mast is a rather delicate operation which
>>> requires some dexterity and balance:
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_37alt6.jpg
>>> But it is handy to lower the mast when you want to pass under a bridge
>>> like this, instead of waiting for it to be raised:
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_37alt7.jpg
>>> (this is my son, who came along for the trip)
>>> 
>>> Despite the rather ugly weather, many people were out and about,
>>> although Michiel told me that on a nice summer day the waters in
>>> Friesland are much more crowded. Here is one family enjoying the day:
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_37alt8.jpg
>>> 
>>> And finally, in a shop/boat gas station where Michiel filled up I saw
>>> this safety equipment on display:
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_37alt9.jpg
>>> 
>>> The complete PAW index is at:
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/indexpaw2005.html
>>> and comments/critique are always welcome and appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Nathan
>>> --
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Almere, The Netherlands
>>> 
>>> General photography: http://www.nathanfoto.com
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>>> Stock photography: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman
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>>> Prints for sale: http://www.photodeluge.com
>>> 
>>> 
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