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Subject: [Leica] What causes blocked up shadow?
From: dlridings at gmail.com (Daniel Ridings)
Date: Thu Sep 22 00:58:02 2005
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I guess you've never mixed 5 liters of D76 if you ask that question :-)

5 liters is nothing, Richard. That's 10 liters 1:1, 15 liters 1:2 etc.
That's 40 or 60 rolls of film. For me, that doesn't involve keeping
Xtol around long enough for it to get old.

When I said it was easy, I meant you don't have to use scalding hot
water (if you mix D76, use the upper range of their temperature
recommendation ... the stuff mixes a lot easier if you do, but that's
hot). The powder of Xtol just dissolves like a charm and creates a
beautiful cooper sheen to boot (I recommend a stainless steel pot to
enjoy the color shift to max).

I just take 1.5 liter Coke bottles (or mineral water bottles). 5
liters of Xtol is three bottles + a 500ml bottle left over (for the
first batch of film).

Actually, I use 2 1.5 liter bottles and 3 500ml bottles. When I've
gone through the 500ml bottles, I rinse them and empty a 1.5 liter
bottle into them. Then I never have a partial empty bottle very long.

I don't know how long Xtol lasts. I've never had a batch around very
long. But I've heard that it greatly extends the times that Kodak
publishes. But we've heard otherwise as well.

All things considered, I still say it's underexposure.

Best,
Daniel

On 9/22/05, Richard <richard-lists@imagecraft.com> wrote:
> The only XTOL I found are in 5 liter size powder form. How could that be
> easy to mix or did I miss something obvious?
>
> Any case, I developed my first Tri X roll in DDX tonight. Should be dried
> real soon now. DDX works well enough for HP5+. Cost isn't a major factor.
> Couldn't be more than $.25 per roll?
>
> At 12:40 AM 9/22/2005, Daniel Ridings wrote:
>
> >Richard,
> >Xtol is a cinch to mix up. I'd mix up some Xtol instead of monkeying
> >around with DDX. I've gone that route myself. I had to have DDX around
> >(the only developer I got to work with Delta 3200) but didn't have any
> >use for it with any other film.
> >
> >Just mix up more Xtol. It's cheap (DDX isn't).
> >
> >Daniel
> >
> >On 9/21/05, Richard <richard-lists@imagecraft.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Dan, possibly. The XTOL working solution is ~7-8 months old. Last 2
> > > months I store it in one of those "accordian" style bottle to minimize 
> > > the
> > > air contact but it was in a plain bottle prior to that. I just mixed a
> > > batch of Ilfotec DDX a couple weeks ago. I think I will switch to that 
> > > for
> > > the next roll and pour the remaining XTOL out. Can't be more than 500 
> > > ml
> > > left anyway.
>
> // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please
> use richard at imagecraft.com)
>
>
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