Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/07/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Exactly. Does anyone wonder how they can sell a PC for $299? Garbage in.....Garbage out. Dell makes throw away PCs for a throw away society. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Javier Perez" <summarex@hotmail.com> To: <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:19 PM Subject: RE: [Leica] Dell Bashing >I work in a 300+ computer environment. The Dells are troublesome, flimsey, > The floppies go bad all the time. the floppy push buttons break and pop > out > on the GX150s. The winchesters blow because the onboard EIDE controllers > fail. The drives themselves are standard quality stuff. But any drive can > blow if hung on an iffy controller. Also, the smart monitoring warning > tends to pop up on some machines and I suspect the controllers are the > real culprits here too. As for my home Pavillions, I've never had a > failure. Now, with that said I will admit that Dell makes robust quality > PC servers and once made fairly decent PCs. But you don't get to the toop > by making the best product, just the cheapest one. > Crap I tell you! > Javier > >>I have owned, with my family, 8 Dell computers over the past few to many >>years. AS much as the assembled multitude dislikes Dell, and especially >>the >>reliability of Dell, I disagree. >> >>I have never had a hardware problem, and I buy consumer grade computers ( >>which use the same quality components as the fancy business machines), I >>have had several problems with software, BIOS, and a single bad keyboard >>and >>a mouse. Never a hardware failure ( other than a $15 keyboard and an even >>cheaper mouse, that probably was a software issue anyway...) >> >>I have never had a HDD go out on me, and I have owned at least 15 over the >>years. I have bought Maxtor ( now), WD, and Seagate. I have worked for WD >>( Imaging Business, not Drives). >> >>Rarely is it a hardware drive problem, especially after the first few days >>of running. Less often even is a motherboard problem, again after a few >>days of operating. It is usually a software, OS, or BIOS problem, but >>finding that out ( and fixing it) is like pulling teeth.. Techs generally >>will not be able to help you.... Even those from Dell that speak English >>as >>their first language..... I was once told to re-install my OS and my SW >>because there was a conflict in the BIOS and my mouse... A Toshiba Laptop >>.. >>a simple change of mouse cured the problem without losing >>anything...except >>my temper..... >> >>Dell is no better than anyone else, but they are also no worse. You are >>buying a high tech product made for consumers. It is like buying a fancy >>rice cooker, TV ( low end), or a microwave oven. They are mostly all made >>in China, of the same components, and especially of the same quality >>components. Sometimes the difference between maker A vs. B is the QA >>checks >>done. Sometimes it is simply the price point that is marked on the box. >>But never believe that any Company with a reputation they want to be >>positive, like Dell, ships garbage, knowingly faulty items, or even second >>grade parts. It just is not true. >> >>Yes, Apple is totally designed in house ( maybe.... did you know that MOST >>of the designs on PC's are done at a small company in California? and the >>design kits are given away by Intel? and as long as they buy Intel >>processors, the use of the design is free....).... and certainly under >>Apple's control all the way. Are they better? Like I think Brian said, >>at >>least they are totally under one entity, so there should be more seamless >>integration of the total SW + HW issues. Is it real? Maybe.... or maybe >>it >>is just hype.... >> >>Buy whatever you want, backup as often as you can, buy drives from whoever >>you wish. Sometimes the SW will just go nuts on you, because it can...... >> >>Rant off..... >> >>Frank Filippone >>red735i@earthlink.net >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >