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Subject: [Leica] OT-Zeiss Lenses Now Listed at B&H
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed Apr 6 00:52:39 2005

> Agree. Leica does not supply the hood for "free" anyway - i'm sure the
> cost is already included. And they are expensive! I just ordered a
> separate hood for my M 28 f2 asph (got it used with box but no hood) -
> the cost is astronomical to me, for what seems to be just a piece of
> plastic. More than twice the price for a much bigger piece of plastic
> that Canon demands for their lens hood to fit much bigger 77mm diameter
> lenses :)
> 
> I do not use a hood with certain lenses, to keep their size compact.
> I'm sure many of you do the same. Not including the hood allows Zeiss
> to keep the prices down. As for those expensive finders, one can always
> buy the Voigtlander ones!
> 
> ----------
> David Teo
> 

77mm has gotten to be Canons default size for lenses as it is for Nikon.
2.8 zooms are a kind of norm. not for me by the way. You'll not catch me
with those monsters.
If I had a 77mm filter I'd convert it into a sunroof for my Volvo Station
wagon.

This is not a simple Zeiss to Leica comparison.
Two small companies making premium accessories of similar tolerances in
similar amounts out of two small German towns paying German workers wages.

This is a comparison of Leica made in Solms in small amounts and the highest
tolerances and wages and benefits and Cosinas made in Asia in much larger
amounts with the workers getting paid a lot less but with the Zeiss name on
it and with tolerances which are anyone's guess but probably a lot lower
than Leicas.

The Leica shades are rectangular and in most cases appear to have undergone
a lot more R&D. They are not the much more simple thin round kind with or
with out cutaways.

When a larger company like Nikon or Canon I notice makes a special purpose
lens made more so in "Leica quantities" the lens shade for that lens can
cost hundreds of dollars. Just check the B&H site.

Nikon HK-29 Lens Hood for 600mm f/4 Manual Focus Lens Price  : $ 579.95
Canon ET-155 Lens Hood for EF 400mm f/2.8L IS Lens Price  : $ 559.95
Canon ??ET-138 Lens Hood for EF 500mm f/4.0L IS Lens Price  : $ 519.95
Nikon ?HK-27 Lens Hood for 400mm f/2.8 D AutoFocus Lens - (Replacement)
Price  : $ 359.95 ?
Pentax ??MA-RA112 112mm Metal Lens Hood (Round) for 300mm f/2.8 FA-Lens
Price  : $ 279.50

The first Leica hood is the 19 for the R:
Leica ?Hood for 19mm f/2.8 R Lens (#11329, 11258) (Replacement) Price
$199.95 
I'ts the 17th most expensive hood on the list. Sorted high to low.
Although it's an ultra wide not for an ultra long I don't think the amount
of plastic involved is what the cost is all about. The plastic for any of
these hoods cost these companies a couple of bucks.

Then there's 
Tokina ?MH112N Metal Lens Hood (Screw-In) for 300mm f/2.8 Pro & II Auto
Focus Lenses  Price  : $ 149.95

The "Zeiss" made by Cosina ZM hoods coming soon all seem to be for $127.

Then the "Voigtl?nder" made by Cosina hood:??
LH-75 Lens Hood (Square) for Voigtl?nder SL 75mm f/2.5, 90mm f/2.5 & 180mm
f/4 SLR Lenses Price  : $ 79.95
 

Make things in small amounts and they're much more delicious.
You save up for them instead of getting them with pocket change.

Lunch at the 21 club for instance. The charter Lear jet alone will cost you
several grand.



Mark Rabiner
Photography
Portland Oregon
http://rabinergroup.com/






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