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Subject: [Leica] OT: Some square snaps
From: firkin at ncable.net.au (Alastair Firkin)
Date: Mon Mar 7 06:13:39 2005
References: <Pine.SOL.4.58-L.0503061515560.7883@hedvig.uio.no> <003701c5228a$d0878220$98384454@desktop> <Pine.SOL.4.58-L.0503071449040.20131@hedvig.uio.no>

gee, Helen and I were due to come up that way, perhaps we will go to 
New Zealand: they are only moderately unfriendly there ;-)
On 08/03/2005, at 1:04 AM, Daniel Ridings wrote:

> Graham,
> Foreigners are not really welcome here. Tolerated, but not welcome. The
> fewer, the better. Perhaps I'm exaggerating, but I feel I have to since
> Scandinavia has tended to have a liberal stamp on it. The various
> countries react differently. I suspect that Sweden has the most liberal
> refugee policy, Finland the least, Denmark, a small country, has been 
> over
> saturated and Norway is somewhere inbetween. Probably closer to Finland
> than anything else.
>
> Norway does have a lot of public money, oil money. So it can afford to
> have civil servants on duty who really don't have to pull much weight.
> They can act offended if you show up and expecting them to perform 
> their
> duties. (I've had a run-in with a few of them, so my background
> information might be tainted :-) ). It doesn't really matter if they do
> anything or not. The country and afford them. The bureaucracy is of
> Byzantine proportions.
>
> So you have these furners. You make them report to the police station 
> (one
> single police station in all of Oslo, the capital city, mind you, not 
> just
> your local station) between 8 and 10? possibly 11. Anyway, at the end 
> of
> the short time frame they close. Doesn't matter that you've been 
> waiting
> there since 8 am, they close. Sorry. Come back tomorrow.
>
> So all these poor souls start queuing up at around 7 am. This 
> particular
> day it was -15 degrees and the wind was raging off the fjord, the 
> harbour.
> Cold. Very cold. Most of these people come from temperate zones ...
> Africa, Pakistan, India etc. 15 degrees is cold for many of them.
>
> At 8 o'clock ... make that 8:05 if the police really feel like screwing
> with you, they unlock the door. Now at that point, you don't retain 
> your
> queue place, but you have to rush to a number machine and get a queue
> number.
>
> Some of these will not get served on today. The one station is Oslo is 
> not
> open long enough to take care of them.
>
> Maybe they'll get tired of it and decide to move home?
>
> http://www.rollei-gallery.net/ridings/image-80729.html
>
> Excuse my cynical humor today. I had a run-in with the customs people 
> at
> the border last night. Norway is a member of Schengen so they're not
> allowed to do controls of people, only of goods. I think they're 
> trying to
> drum up business for the train line to Gothenburg they now have but 
> can't
> get to take off (they raised the price 100%) so they're making sure all
> other forms of transportation are so miserable to use that people with 
> opt
> for the useless train instead (it's a milk-run. Stops at every farm
> between Gothenburg and Oslo).
>
> Something like that ...
>
> Daniel
>
>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> I particularly like these two:
>> http://www.rollei-gallery.net/ridings/image-80727.html
>>
>> http://www.rollei-gallery.net/ridings/image-80728.html
>>
>> and I am curious about the reference to 'foreigners dose of 
>> humiliation'
>>
>> --Graham
>>
>>
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