Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/03/06

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Subject: [Leica] was Multiple Bodies, now cropping-phooey!
From: bdcolen at (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sun Mar 6 15:43:54 2005

That's fine, if you consider Ansel a Saint. I don't. I consider him one
of the great darkroom masters of all time, and a wonderful photographic
technician/innovator (the Zone system, etc.). But when it comes to
photography per se, I'm in that minority that consider him a purveyor of
boring calendar art. ;-)

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of
Dan C
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:49 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] was Multiple Bodies, now cropping-phooey!

Didn't St. Ansel say something like, "the negative is the score and the
print is the performance"?  I think I am with Sonny on this one.
Obviously, I do my best when taking the photograph, but I will do
whatever I have to to improve upon the image when creating the final
either in the darkroom or with Photoshop.   This includes cropping,
converting a colour digital image to black and white, curve adjustment,

-dan c.

At 04:15 PM 06-03-05 -0500, Tina Manley wrote:
>At 01:45 PM 3/6/2005, you wrote:
>>what one is then doing is not photographing per se, but grabbing 
>>elements with a camera to later try to turn them into something in the

>And that is not photography?  ;-)
>There have been many well-known photographs that started on film but 
>actually created in the darkroom.
>Tina Manley, ASMP
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