[Leica] 20 Discards

[philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)]

B.D.,

What I find particulary interesting is the fact that:

a) The one that makes the photograph, sees -probably due to his involvement
with the photograph- often more in his images than an unprejudiced spectator
does.
It's a dilemma: not being able to judge ones own work (in French: pas assez
de recule).

b) Different people interpret the same images differently. Luckily, I'd add.

It is not that I didn't suspect what 17 and 19 were about (I tried to hint
this hopefully) but that they IMO did not undoubtedly tell the story that
you see in them. 

Again, my 5 cents.

Philippe
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> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:34:36 -0500
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] 20 Discards
> 
> Wow! Does this tell us why they stage horse races...:-) Obviously, I
> like your picks as they were in my original 40 - The dog photo is one of
> my all time favorites, but my daughter particularly made the argument
> that it is too out of sync with the rest of my work. I, too, like the
> traffic light in the snow, but again, it's not really me. Well, it is,
> because it caught my eye and I like it, but in terms of what one might
> term my body of work, it doesn't fit.
> 
> Now, as to your cuts - Boy, do I disagree! I would argue - and I would
> really argue - that 17 and 19 are THE two best street photos I've ever
> taken. For 19, Not Angelica Houston, it's the fact that those women
> scream wealthy Manhattan; it's the mood and saturation of the color; and
> most important, it's the complete disconnect, the isolation, and yet
> total connection of the two women.
> 
> And 17?! It's the disdainful yet curious stare of the black woman, the
> "banker's" aloofness and what I see as, perhaps, distain, the passing
> glance of the Hasid, and the confusion of legs.
> 
> But, hey, that's what makes for horse races and the differences between
> photographers. And thanks for the thoughtful response.
> 
> B. D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Philippe Orlent
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:13 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] 20 Discards
> 
> 
> Dunno if it's major mistakes, but here I go. I'd put
> 
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album163/Discard17
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album163/Discard18
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album163/Discard19
> 
> All because they intrigue me, make me curious about what is happening
> there, or make me fantasize about what will happen. Maybe they are nit
> technically perfect in terms of cropping or so, but so what? IMO that is
> a technical issue, and in interpreting such kind of images that is not
> the first thing on my approval checklist.
> 
> and
> 
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album163/Discard20, because I like the
> soft colortones, because I find it a very graphical image and because I
> like the out of focus effect. It's not something I've never seen before,
> but it stays a kind of picture that captures the eye.
> 
> in the selection instead of
> 
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album154/Colen20_resize: is this Anjelica
> Houston or a look alike? It's about the only thing that I can think
> about that would make this image a bit interesting. If it's about
> generations not communicating, it lacks a clear sign of, well, the lack
> of communication.
> 
> and
> 
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album154/Colen19_resize, because I like
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album154/Colen15_resize more, and it's
> the same kind of theme: photographer takes a photo of a photographer.
> 
> and
> 
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album154/Colen17_resize, because it feels
> like it's taken just too soon or too late: no real connection between
> the 2 people in the photo.
> 
> and
> 
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album154/Colen12_resize: nothing is
> really happening here, and as a purely graphic image it doesn't appeal
> to me.
> 
> and (even if it's 5 out against 4 in)
> 
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album154/Colen7_resize, because it's the
> least of the (strong) prenatal series IMO
> 
> Just my 5 cents,
> Philippe
> ---
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