Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/01/10

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Subject: [Leica] Zeiss Ikon Focus Shift
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Mon Jan 10 11:49:12 2005
References: <BAY101-F393A7808AE75BAC5103796AB970@phx.gbl>

I think there is a big difference between floating elements to correct 
aberrations at different focus distances and a mechanism to correction 
for focus shift with aperture, which would require some sort of linkage 
between the aperture ring and the focus ring - not something I have 
heard of before.

On 10 Jan, 2005, at 19:42, Bill Marshall wrote:

> Alex Hurst wrote:
>> "FWIW, this would seem to be a variation on the Nikon CRC system 
>> which optimizes focus in close."
>
> You may be on to something, Alex, because the 85/2 ZM Sonnar does 
> employ floating elements, which is exactly what Nikon's CRC design 
> does. In the CRC (close range correction) system, these 'floating" 
> elements move within the lens as the focus distance changes. The ZM 
> 85/2.8 also "incorporates an ultra-precise, nonlinear RF coupling 
> mechanism" paired with the floating element design. Nikon uses its CRC 
> system not only with medium telephoto lenses but also with extreme 
> wide  angle lenses, where such focus problems & resultant image 
> deterioration also occur. Sure enough, the new 15/2.8 ZM Distagon 
> employs a floating element design as well. These are the 2 new Zeiss 
> lenses that will be manufactured directly by Zeiss in Germany & have 
> not been subcontracted to Cosina because of their lack of experience & 
> equipment necessary for this type of lens manufacture.
>
> I wonder if they are also using something similar or equivalent to 
> Nikon's ED glass, which they employ especially on their ultra-wide 
> angle optics. Zeiss too stresses in its literature the use of "exotic 
> optical materials"* in the manufacure of the 15/2.8. It's interesting 
> to note as well that Nikon lenses using ED glass also employ special 
> focusing mechanics to accomodate "a shift in the focus point" (from 
> "The Nikon Compendium"). For Nikon, too, these are among their most 
> expensive lenses "due to the unusually high manufacturing costs 
> involved in the production of ED lenses."
>
> Funny thing is that no one called it "hype" when Nikon introduced the 
> CRC system. What is the resistance to this new Zeiss product line that 
> prompts such comments?
>
>
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Replies: Reply from jbilin at axionet.com (Jacques Bilinski) ([Leica] Zeiss Ikon Focus Shift)
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