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Subject: [Leica] Bad Exposure or Something Else?
From: ruben at rhodos.dk (Ruben)
Date: Tue Dec 7 00:56:35 2004
References: <410-220041216232113900@edge.net> <AEF87488-4828-11D9-85D9-0003938C439E@btinternet.com>

Have the same experience with "kodak color 200" i think it is a discount 
version of the kodak gold film - looks like 800 asa when scanning it  - I 
got the best result by using a agfa negative profile for the scan though - 
not on a Nikon bu on an artixscan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Dernie" <Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Bad Exposure or Something Else?


> Beware of Gold 200 if you use a 4000 dpi Nikon scanner. Of all the films I 
> have scanned it seems to suffer the most from what I am told is grain 
> aliasing. The scans look very grainy for a 200 asa film.
> Frank
>
> On 6 Dec, 2004, at 23:21, Jim Nichols wrote:
>
>> Richard,
>>
>> After similar disappointments, I settled on Kodak Gold 200, and it has
>> served me well.  There should be a similar Professional Version rated at
>> 200, but I have not really pursued that route yet.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> nicholsj@edge.net
>>
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Richard S. Taylor <r.s.taylor@comcast.net>
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Date: 12/6/2004 1:04:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Bad Exposure or Something Else?
>>>
>>> John - Your "sinful" attempt to correct the image is certainly closer
>>> to what I saw - and thanks you and to all the others who responded
>>> with ideas and suggestions.
>>>
>>> What really bothers me about the photo (and about the dozen or so
>>> others I took at the same time) is the blown out highlights.  I've
>>> now looked at the negatives more carefully and the highlights are
>>> badly blown out there, too.  (Which eliminates the scanning as an
>>> issue.)  I think if the highlights weren't so badly blown it might
>>> have been possible to make something of the picture.
>>>
>>> So, I think what I've learned is:
>>>
>>> 1. ASA 400 color negative film really isn't universal. I should have
>>> used a longer-scale film, ASA 100 or so, in this situation.
>>>
>>> 2. Overexposure really isn't OK with color negative film (though is
>>> far more forgiving than slide film).  I've always exposed for the
>>> shadows and let the highlights take care of themselves.   That
>>> obviously doesn't always work.
>>>
>>> 3. Photoshop can't fix everything.
>>>
>>> You are forgiven.  Your good works saved you.  Go and sin no more...
>>> (unless that is, you want to try again to fix one of my miserable
>>> attempts to commit photography, in which case, sin away.)
>>>
>>>> May God have mercy on my immortal soul. Is this more what you had in
>> mind?
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album63/another_man_s_image
>>>>
>>>> John Collier
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 5, 2004, at 5:50 PM, Richard S. Taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As I turned onto Memorial Drive in Cambridge last week the
>>>>> sycamores along the drive were glowing white-gold in the
>>>>> mid-afternoon sunlight.  I quickly parked and took pictures.  The
>>>>> results were disappointing to say the least.  I've posted one
>>>>> example here:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/PICKS/21_0021>
>>>>>
>>>>> Photographic qualities of the picture aside, I wonder if any of you
>>>>> might have any thoughts on what I might have done to improve the
>>>>> rendition of the glowing trees that I saw with my eyes.  There
>>>>> seems to be an exposure issue here since the highlights look blown
>>>>> out but would it have been better on a slower film, or is there a
>>>>> scanning problem, or something else?
>>>>>
>>>>> This photo isn't even close to the image I had in my head.
>>>>> Manipulation in Photoshop to darken the image overall helps but
>>>>> isn't really the solution.  The posted picture is unmanipulated and
>>>>> uncropped.
>>>>
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>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dick
>>> Boston MA
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