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Subject: [Leica] RE: Re: Nikon's profits tripled
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Thu Nov 18 07:59:02 2004

Hardly, Doug - My stated opinions would hardly be called "vitriolic"
were this not a list peopled by so many equipment/company worshipers. 

My guess has to do with Nikon - it has absolutely nothing to do with my
feelings about the R. As an observer of the photo scene I find the
introduction at this point of a new high-end film 35 - from a company
that already produces a terrific high-end 35 film workhorse, puzzling,
to say the least. So the question is: What are they up to? All I've done
is take a guess as to what they are up to. Whether I'm right, or totally
and completely off base, only time will tell.

The bottom line, however, is that it really doesn't matter to me - nor
should it matter to anyone else - whether I'm right or wrong - I'm
simply wasting time engaging in the same kind of mental masturbation
that makes up about 90% of what goes on on this list - as in 'why is
Lecia doing this? Why is Lecia doing that? Here's my wish list for the
digital M! Here's what I think they're going to do with the M
line...Blah blah blah. Interestingly, I never see you attacking people
who engage in that kind of pure speculation...



-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Doug Herr
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:53 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] RE: Re: Nikon's profits tripled


It seems B.D. that the only basis you have for your guess it a perpetual
anti-R prejudice as vitriolic as the one you presume I have for Leica-R.

Doug Herr
Birdman of Sacramento
http://www.wildlightphoto.com



on 11/17/04 6:34 PM, B. D. Colen at bdcolen@earthlink.net wrote:

> LOL! And tell me that you didn't all assume, until you were recently 
> informed otherwise, that you wouldn't be able to swap the DMC or DC3, 
> or whatever its being called, any time you wanted to. And now it turns

> out that if you switch backs on a regular basis the unit that only 
> costs $5000 can be expect to die within a couple years.
> 
> As I said...LOL...
> And I have, by the way, made absolutely no claim to have any factual 
> basis for my theories about what Nikon is up to - other than looking 
> at what they have done in the past, and the way their new film camera 
> is configured. But then I forgot that this isn't a place devoted to 
> truly endless speculation about what Solms will or won't do in regard 
> to virtually every camera and piece of equipment its ever made or 
> thought of making... LOL...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> Of JCB
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:42 PM
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Subject: [Leica] RE: Re: Nikon's profits tripled
> 
> 
> Correct Doug! If one has a Leica R8/R9 and interested in the R digital

> back, one would not be interested in a Nikon digital back regardless 
> of how swappable it is! People typically don't plan future photography

> systems based on hearsay and innuendo.
> 
> JB
> 
> 
> At 04:19 PM 11/17/2004, Douglas Herr wrote:
> 
>> B.D., the DMR - Leica's digital back - is about $5,000, not $7,000. 
>> And why are you guessing the hypothetical Nikon digital back will be 
>> truly swappable?  Is there any basis for this guess?
>> 
>> 
>> Doug Herr
>> Birdman of Sacramento
>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> 
>> "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Except that Leica's $7K? digital back is not intended to be swapped 
>>> on a regular basis, according to a post here recently. ... Nikon's, 
>>> I would guess, will be truly swappable - IF they produce one.
> 
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