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Subject: Levelling: [was Re: [Leica] More snaps (Skopar)]
From: dorysrus at mindspring.com (Don Dory)
Date: Wed Nov 3 15:58:51 2004

Actually, I think that we move the camera ever so slightly when pressing
the shutter release.  If you go back a couple of years in the archives,
Ted was talking about this.  Since I started to bring up the 90 or 135
frame lines to level the horizon and keep it leveled while pressing the
shutter release, my horizons have gotten much better :)

Don
dorysrus@mindspring.com

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf
Of Richard S. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:34 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Levelling: [was Re: [Leica] More snaps (Skopar)]

That's an interesting number.  If I did the math right, it works out 
to about  0.025 degrees.  So why is it so hard to level the camera 
with a wide-angle lens?  I suspect the answer is in the 
"minification" and restricted field of view of the usual finders. 
Visual size reduction plus shorter baseline equals greater error. 
The finder brightlines, if it even has them, might easily be off by a 
degree, too.  Without brightlines, leveling is probably hopeless 
since your eye has no reference as to what is square.

Accurate reference lines in the finder are the only answer, as was 
mentioned earlier this morning, but the the lines must be confirmed 
square to the camera film gate, too.

Photoshop is easier.  How did we ever live without it?




>I had an interesting discussion with a cabinet maker and later with an
>Intensive Care physician several years ago about the ability of our
>"uncalibrated eyeballs" to discern "out-of-true" lines.  Cabinet
makers,
>I learned, have always known that the unaided human eye (assuming
>average eyesight), can detect 1/64" and 1/128" over a length of 3'.
The
>physician was treating my wife, who had a Swan-Ganz (sp?) catheter.
For
>the treatment to work properly, as I recall, a long level had to
>extended horizontally from the catheter entry site in her chest out to
>the side of the patient.  Several nurses were fussing with the thing
>when the doc came in and, rather impatiently explained to the nurses
>that the human eye was more capable of detecting out-of-level
conditions
>than by using the level.  He then proceeded to demonstrate, and he was
>right! 
>
>Amazing what the eye can do! 
>
>Ken Frazier
>
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-- 
Regards,

Dick
Boston MA
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