Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/10/26

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Subject: [Leica] RE: Leica M4-2
From: feli2 at (feli)
Date: Tue Oct 26 14:49:35 2004
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So, Ted, do you think that someone like Eugene Smith, who was notorious 
for showing up with massive amounts of gear, which he matched to the 
assignment at hand, and knew every trick in the book as far as printing 
and developing is concerned, was merely an artsy fartsy dilettante who 
spent to much time playing with himself, instead of taking great 

I know you have been doing this professionally for 50 years, but I do 
not understand why you seemingly always dismiss any technical or 
artistic ambition, beyond lining up the blinking lights in the 
viewfinder as amateurish flim flam.

I'm not a working PJ, but I do work professionally with film and 
cameras in the movie business. I do not see how it is possible to 
achieve the best work possible, if you have not mastered the tools and 
technical skills of your craft. If you do not do so I do not see how it 
is possible for you to achieve the best of ones artistic ability and 
over come any difficulties one will encounter in the field.

Sorry, but this does not make any sense to me.


 >On Oct 26, 2004, at 12:14 PM, Ted Grant wrote:
> Hi Gene,
> Neither did, nor do I, simply because if you don't know, nor worry 
> yourself about this nickel and dime viewfinder stuff  and do your 
> photography with what you're looking at in the viewfinder, one has a 
> much better time.
> Heavens the years I've used Leica's to date is longer than some a live 
> on this list and it never occurred to me that there was anything wrong 
> with the viewfinder. As it always comes down to........ "How damn good 
> is the picture?" That's what people need be concerned with rather than 
> this nickel and dime viewfinder stuff.
> Besides who shoots an M camera and expects to have what you see in the 
> viewfinder to be "absolutely perfect on the film?"  And if they do 
> they're in for a huge surprise because if one requires that kind of 
> accuracy they should  use an R or some other camera where you see 99%  
> to 100% of the screen and what's going on the film.
> ted
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