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Subject: [Leica] Photokina _ The lens on Tom's RD1
From: nathan.wajsman at planet.nl (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Mon Oct 4 11:41:14 2004
References: <00a501c4aa39$c33f9b80$6401a8c0@ccapr.com>

Hi B.D.,

I see your point. But I guess the mindset with a digital camera is that 
such manual advancing should not be necessary. In my own shooting I try 
to think about each picture, even if it is with Canon. During the full 
day at Photokina I shot around 120 frames--I do not think it would have 
been much less if I had been shooting film.

Anyway, the issue with the advance lever is a minor quibble about what 
is overall an excellent--if a bit pricey--camera. Certainly they have 
set a high bar for the digital M.

Nathan

B. D. Colen wrote:

> I haven't yet handled an RD1, Nathan, but I find the objection to the
> shutter advance interesting. Because I would think that requiring this
> pause, if you will, brings the digital shooting experience that much
> closer to the film RF experience - and that can only be positive, no?
> Doesn't it force you to think a bit more about each frame, just as
> shooting film with an M - v. shooting film with a motor driven SLR -
> forces you to do?
> Granted, it's "fake" in a way, but it strikes me in theory as one of the
> rare times when "fake" may be good.
> 
> B. D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Nathan Wajsman
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:40 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photokina _ The lens on Tom's RD1
> 
> 
> Hi Howard,
> 
> Lucien already answered the question about the lens. I did try Tom's RD1
> 
> and liked it a lot. It felt heavy and substantial, and the viewfinder is
> 
> excellent. Even if it were a film body, I would consider it the most 
> solidly built of the CV cameras. As a digital body, it must be giving a 
> lot of folks in Solms grey hair.
> 
> The one thing I did not like is the need to "advance" the shutter with 
> what used to be the film advance lever. I realize that they did it to 
> keep the form factor as close as possible to a film camera, but frankly 
> I could have done without it. To me, this kind of pretending that the 
> camera is something it is not constitutes a pure marketing gimmick 
> without any value. A couple of times I pressed the shutter release and 
> nothing happened because I had forgotten to "advance".
> 
> Nathan
> 
> Howard Cummer wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hi Nathan,
>>Enjoy your pictures and commentary as always. Can you please tell me
>>what Leica lens Tom is using on his RD1 in picture 40alt1? Did you try
> 
> 
>>Tom's RD1? Impressions??
>>Thanks
>>Howard
>>On Monday, Oct 4, 2004, at 05:27 Asia/Hong_Kong, 
>>lug-request@leica-users.org wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Message: 14
>>>Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:32:08 +0200
>>>From: Nathan Wajsman <nathan.wajsman@planet.nl>
>>>Subject: [Leica] Nathan's PAW 40 and more: Photokina 2004
>>>To: LEG <leica@freelists.org>, Leica Users Group 
>>><lug@leica-users.org>
>>>Message-ID: <416053B8.1090706@planet.nl>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>>>
>>>This week's PAW could only be one thing: the day I spent at Photokina
> 
> 
>>>yesterday. Going to Photokina is a fixture of my life in the 
>>>even-numbered years. The excuse is to go and see all the new goodies,
> 
> 
>>>but in reality the main reason I go is to meet with friends from the 
>>>LUG/LEG and from the Viewfinders photo club in Brussels. So from 
>>>yesterday's excursion, I have selected a few images for the PAW. I 
>>>have also put up a larger (31 images) Photokina gallery at: 
>>>http://www.nathanfoto.com/indexkina.html
>>>
>>>And here is Tom, pronouncing on some undoubtedly weighty subject: 
>>>http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2004/2004_40alt1.jpg
>>>
>>
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> 
> 

-- 
Nathan Wajsman
Almere, The Netherlands

General photography: http://www.nathanfoto.com
Seville photography: http://www.fotosevilla.com



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