Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Just to connect threads (Eric here of R8 scratch thread). I was chasing down scratches on my TCN (which I shoot nearly exclusively). Turned out that it was the sleeves that my photo labs was using. They did some testing for me and confirmed this. Happened with Fuji NPH as well. Seems these films are somehow softer. When they develop my film they put the full film strip loosely in to plastic bags. Works well for me - no scratches. Eric -------------------------------------------------- www.faneuil.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Bridge" <abridge@gmail.com> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 1:38 AM Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: FW: Black and White C41 Film > The scratches only show up on the negatives I process myself, not on > ones that I send out, either color or CN black and white even if I > scan without digital ICE. And it happens with three different cameras: > two M6's and one . . . R8! (Just to connect to another thread > happening here.) > > I actually DID have the R8 scratch my film - it was picked up by the > lab I use for E6 who called me and I had the camera cleaned. (I > definately like this lab.) > > Adam > > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:46:31 -0400, Don Dory <dorysrus@mindspring.com> > wrote: >> Adam, >> If you have scratches on your negatives and you process your own >> negatives, then you have to look at your camera and or cassettes if you >> reload. >> >> First, the Nikon scanner has an extremely coherent light lens so any >> defect in the film is found, so microscopic marks show up all to well. >> >> Using the standard stainless steel reels, I only have scratches like >> that when I use my IIIf and my Canon IVsb. To this day I have not found >> the &*%$$ rough spot in either camera so I have to healing brush out a 1 >> to2 pixel scratch across most of any frame. What makes it hard is that >> you can not see that small a line on the negative so you have to guess >> where the dirt is on the body. >> >> Don >> dorysrus@mindspring.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf >> Of JAMES NICHOLS >> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:19 PM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: FW: Black and White C41 Film >> >> Adam, >> Are you certain that the scratches are present before you scan the >> negatives? Could the scanner itself be the culprit? >> Dust can always be a problem when one must air-dry in the home >> environment. >> I've never used a drying cabinet, but I assume the environment can be >> more >> closely controlled. >> >> Jim Nichols >> >> > [Original Message] >> > From: Adam Bridge <abridge@gmail.com> >> > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >> > Date: 9/21/2004 8:08:41 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: FW: Black and White C41 Film >> > >> > Hmmm...this is probably my own problem but I have a terrible time with >> > very thin scratches on the film I process. I've tried everything to >> > eliminate them and they continue to plague me. They only show up on >> > scanned images, however. If I print the image in an enlarger they do >> > not show up even on substantial enlargements. I'm assuming that it's >> > an artifact of the scanning process - that the Nikon scanner somehow >> > enhances the scratches. >> > >> > I also have a bit of dust problem even though I work hard to eliminate >> > it. I know: buy a drying cabinet. Everything in its time! >> > >> > Adam >> > >> > >> > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:46:07 -0500, Eric <ericm@pobox.com> wrote: >> > > James: >> > > >> > > >Comparing results with C41 B&W to the results I got with Plus-X, >> Super >> XX, and Tri-X >> > > >in the 1950s and 60s when I had my own darkroom, I have been >> somewhat >> disappointed. >> > > >> > > Don't need a darkroom. Just a bathroom that can be darkened for a >> few >> > > minutes to load your film. If your scanning your chromogenic film, >> there's >> > > no reason why you can't scan your silver halide film. >> > > >> > > The main advantage I see to C41 B&W is that you can use the infrared >> channel >> > > on many scanners to help eliminate dust and scratches. >> > > >> > > The main advantage I see to doing your own conventional B&W is that >> you >> > > don't need to eliminate dust and scratches that were placed there by >> the >> > > stupid lab. :) >> > > >> > > Come on. You know you really want to. :) >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Eric >> > > http://canid.com/ >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Leica Users Group. >> > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >