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Subject: [Leica] new 1ds mark II - AND A True Senior Moment...
From: grduprey at rockwellcollins.com (grduprey@rockwellcollins.com)
Date: Tue Sep 21 13:31:37 2004

You had better double up on the Meds, until you get it back.  Or you will 
be totally intolerable here on the LUG.  No wonder you are so cranky this 
week. ;-)

I would probably loan out the Nikon F3 (Don't use it anyway) to one of my 
daughters, but My Leica's, AAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!

Gene




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Right...Both the IIDx and the MarkII seem to me to offer the idea
combination of speed and resolution. But I might feel differently if I
did the kind of work that Doug does with his birds, while you want to
see the finest detail in the smallest feathers, or if I did studio work.
But I keep returning to the fact that my yardstick is a roll of tri-x
pushed to 800 asa. ;-)

True Senior Moment.
Son Ben, the skateboard shooter - pick up the current issue of
Skateboarder Magazine; the cover is his, and in addition to allot of
random stuff in the issue, he has one of the main stories, as writer and
shooter :-) - blew into town yesterday. He's in NYC for two weeks, and
was coming up here to accompany a skater to the skater's home town of
Chatham, on Cape Cod. So Ben calls from the road on the way up and
asks, "Hey, Dad, have you got a Nikon prime between about 35 and 50 I
can borrow. I've got to interview this guy and I want something smallish
to shoot him when I'm interviewing him." Well, the answer was no, so
then...The Big Question - the Moment of Moments. "Well, do you suppose I
could borrow and M with a 35 or 28? Ill pack it up really carefully and
ship it back to you from NY?"

OH GOD, MAKE ME SAY AND DO THE RIGHT THING. THIS IS "IT." This is The
Moment. Loan someone one of my Ms? Is he KIDDING? This is the kid who
lost his iPod within three days of getting it because it was in his
jacket pocket and the jacket was "lost" when he was in a bar with skater
friends. Loan him...an M? 

"Sure," I said, choking back the tears and terror, "35 1.4 okay?"

Today, he is a man.


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-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Feli di Giorgio
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 4:03 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] new 1ds mark II


On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 12:42, B. D. Colen wrote:
> First, a humble apology - You're right about the cards - I wasn't 
> thinking of that ludicrous file size. On the other hand, no one is 
> going to use that thing for PJ banging off shots machine gun style.

Yeah, 16.7 MP is great until you realize you need to store those files
somewhere. 8-)

> 
> And when you start to talk about trusting one drive, etc, you seem to 
> be assuming that someone is starting from absolute scratch - which I 
> can't imagine someone going for this camera doing.

You're probably right, but believe it or not I have more film cameras
than I care to admit and would be starting from scratch. I use digital
cameras at work, but don't actually own one myself.
;-)


> And I'm comparing it to the Leica back because you made the comment 
> about its price in comparison to the Leica.


> But hey, Feli, I'm not trying to get into a brawl with you over this 
> or anything else. Frankly, I can't imagine why anyone would want this 
> thing, unless they're now shooting 2 1/4 and mostly doing studio 
> work...As far as I'm concerned, most of my work can be easily done 
> with a 5-6 mgp camera. After that, it's all gravy.

Yeah, I think you're right that it's mostly a studio/event camera. I
think 
most PJ's would go for something like the D2x or 1d MarkII. If one did
insist on using the 1ds II for that type of work you would probably not
always shoot at the maximum resolution. 


Feli




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