Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/05

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From: jls at (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Sun Sep 5 17:02:34 2004

My primary concern is losing the ability to easily develop the negs at
home. But you are right...shooting color and grayscaling it gives you a
lot of control without having to use filters.

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Dan C
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 6:58 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] INCORRECTLY R.I.P. ILFORD

Perhaps.....a few months ago I sold 50 rolls of Agfapan 25 back to the
dealer I bought them from when Agfa discontinued it a few years ago, and
was thrilled to get them (and they all sold out within a week, mainly to
store employees).

But all in all, I doubt that the b/w market is particularly strong.  I
suspect that people who scan film are discovering that colour film (or
C41 b/w film) happens to scan very nicely into black and white images.

-dan c.

At 03:37 PM 05-09-04 -0400, Jesse Hellman wrote:
>But IS the market empty, Dan? While B & W film and darkroom products
>be heading in the direction of art and hobby photographers very quickly

>there still may be enough to support a few streamlined companies if
>no research for the future. The structure of the business had been set 
>up for a different market leading to more employees than are now
>For instance, there still may be many people who want to use film and 
>scan it instead of heading for the darkroom (which I just came out of).

>I hope so, because I'm not ready to switch to digital for B & W. For 
>color, I use film and have it put on CDs with large enough files for 
>printing on my Epson R800.
>There may be enough other people who will do this for years to keep a 
>business like Ilford going, but not enough for product development.

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