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Subject: [Leica] Leica Digilux 2 @ 1600 :-)
From: nathan.wajsman at (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Sun Sep 5 08:10:13 2004
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Here are the pictures I mentioned. Taken at a restaurant in Amsterdam, 
in pretty dim light. The fact that I only had the 17-35mm zoom with a 
max. aperture of 2.8 at the wide end did not make things easier (I have 
bought a couple of fast prime lenses since). I was shooting at ISO 1600, 
with shutter speeds in the 1/20-1/30 range. The results are here:

Sure, there is some digital noise, and my skills in converting to B&W 
are still in development, to put it politely. Nonetheless, I am quite 
happy with the pictures as a memento of an occasion.


Frank Dernie wrote:
> A 2 or 3 years ago I took some pictures at 1600 asa with a Canon D30 in 
> the crypt of a monastery in Northern Spain which was almost dark. The 
> results were markedly better than film at this speed, and it was this 
> which was the determining experience in making my Leicas semi retire!
> There was even more scepticism from certain LUG members then! It is the 
> superior low light performance of digital which is its biggest benefit 
> over film IME.
> cheers
> Frank
> On 4 Sep, 2004, at 18:34, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>> Ted Grant wrote:
>>> So any others out there having a shot at this? And what's your 
>>> results look
>>> like?
>> Hi Ted,
>> My Canon DSLR has ISO settings going up to 1600, and I find the 800 to 
>> be excellent and the 1600 highly usable. I may post some pictures I 
>> took of my wife during our anniversary dinner in an Amsterdam 
>> restaurant a couple of weeks ago--all shot in dim light at 1600, and 
>> all highly usable even though shot with a crappy Sigma zoom.
>> There is no question in my mind that the images I get from this camera 
>> at 800 or 1600 are superior to film. There is also a pseudo 3200 
>> setting--I think all it does is dialling in an extra stop of exposure 
>> compensation--and that one I find quite ugly. But then again, film I 
>> have shot at 3200 is also quite ugle...That setting is truly for 
>> situations where getting an image--any image--is absolutely necessary.
>> Nathan
>> -- 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Almere, The Netherlands
>> General photography:
>> Seville photography:
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Nathan Wajsman
Almere, The Netherlands

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