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Subject: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Mon Aug 23 06:23:31 2004

Yes. Am I wrong in thinking that that is an image of two East German
soldiers, hands linked, jumping the barbed wire into West Germany - as
opposed to something having to do with supposed homosexuality? LIFE was
never a photo gallery - it was about stories. And yes, it was about
stories about the "American way of life," and yes, Luce was a dedicated
anti-communist cold warrior. 

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Slobodan Dimitrov
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:22 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked 


And, needless to say, the reason d'?tre for LIFE, as an instrument of
the Cold War, was the portrayal, or the selling, of a way of life. One
of my favorites of LIFE's mistruths came from Arnold Newman. During a
lecture/presentation he spoke about the famous Igor Stravinsky image at
the piano. It was assigned by  LIFE, but not used for the week it was
done for. Apparently it got booted for another image, two East German
soldiers holding hands, while on guard duty at the Berlin Wall. Need I
say more! S. Dimitrov



> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:23:46 -0400
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked
> 
> What Smith did was, by today's standards, inexcusable. BUT - he was 
> not operating under today's standards: he was working in an era in 
> which standards were much different. Look through a pile of old LIFE's

> and you will quickly see that the 'golden days' of PJ were days of the

> set up shot....
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> Of Dan C
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 4:41 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked
> 
> 
> And even in more recent times, W. Eugene Smith was known to alter some

> of
> his photos for artistic sense.   And many of his photo essay's were
> setups.
> But the bottom line was that he was not depicting a lie.  His photos 
> showed Doctor Schweitzer doing what he actually did in real life, 
> Smith just wanted the photos to look a bit better.
> 
> -dan c.
> 
> At 02:20 PM 22-08-04 -0400, Emanuel Lowi wrote:
>> Remember too that there was a tradition of photo
>> humbuggery established before the days of yellow
>> journalism. There were pictures haunted with ghosts &
>> people posed with props or dressed up in strangers
>> clothes, for effect.
>> 
>> Exposure times were long and the gear cumbersome --
>> none of this zippy whiz-bang digital ease, eh ;-)
>> 
>> So they made sure the picture looked "right," even
>> though it was "wrong." Plus ?a change...
>> 
>> Emanuel Lowi
>> Montreal
>> 
>> 
>> 
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