Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/08/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I am not experienced with ALL newspapers, just lots in English. I would say all of them are there to propagate the political/personal beliefs of the proprietor, that the journalists who write for them have like views and believe they are writing the truth. I have never read an accurate article concerning anything where I have knowledge of the facts so I assume all other articles, where I am not in possesion of the facts, are equally innacurate. My solution is to read lots of reports of the same incidents from different sources, very stimulating. At least we knew Pravda was innaccurate and the Soviets were brainwashed......... Frank --- Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov@charter.net> wrote: > I knew that! After a while, corresponding with the > same people, one falls > into a short hand. > If you check the histories of early newspapers, > you'll find that most were > political papers. Many of the early newspapers' > names alone would tell you > right off what they stood for. > But LIFE was really a soft sell compared to the > Hearst newspapers. > S. Dimitrov > > > > From: "Kit McChesney | Vuelux" <kitmc@vuelux.com> > > Organization: Vuelux | Leica Cameras, Sport Optics > & Accessories > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > > Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:35:16 -0600 > > To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked > > > > Slobo-- > > > > I didn't mean that what YOU said was propaganda; I > was just commenting on > > LIFE's editorial decision. Sorry to confuse > (mostly myself!) > > > > Kit > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lug-bounces+kitmc=vuelux.com@leica-users.org > > > [mailto:lug-bounces+kitmc=vuelux.com@leica-users.org] > On Behalf Of Kit > > McChesney | Vuelux > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 8:31 PM > > To: 'Leica Users Group' > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked > > > > Talk about propaganda! :) > > > > Kit > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lug-bounces+kitmc=vuelux.com@leica-users.org > > > [mailto:lug-bounces+kitmc=vuelux.com@leica-users.org] > On Behalf Of Slobodan > > Dimitrov > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:22 PM > > To: Leica Users Group > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked > > > > And, needless to say, the reason d'?tre for LIFE, > as an instrument of the > > Cold War, was the portrayal, or the selling, of a > way of life. > > One of my favorites of LIFE's mistruths came from > Arnold Newman. During a > > lecture/presentation he spoke about the famous > Igor Stravinsky image at the > > piano. It was assigned by LIFE, but not used for > the week it was done for. > > Apparently it got booted for another image, two > East German soldiers holding > > hands, while on guard duty at the Berlin Wall. > Need I say more! > > S. Dimitrov > > > > > > > >> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> > >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > >> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:23:46 -0400 > >> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> > >> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked > >> > >> What Smith did was, by today's standards, > inexcusable. BUT - he was not > >> operating under today's standards: he was working > in an era in which > >> standards were much different. Look through a > pile of old LIFE's and you > >> will quickly see that the 'golden days' of PJ > were days of the set up > >> shot.... > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: > lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org > >> > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] > On Behalf Of > >> Dan C > >> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 4:41 PM > >> To: Leica Users Group > >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked > >> > >> > >> And even in more recent times, W. Eugene Smith > was known to alter some > >> of > >> his photos for artistic sense. And many of his > photo essay's were > >> setups. > >> But the bottom line was that he was not depicting > a lie. His photos > >> showed Doctor Schweitzer doing what he actually > did in real life, Smith > >> just wanted the photos to look a bit better. > >> > >> -dan c. > >> > >> At 02:20 PM 22-08-04 -0400, Emanuel Lowi wrote: > >>> Remember too that there was a tradition of photo > >>> humbuggery established before the days of yellow > >>> journalism. There were pictures haunted with > ghosts & > >>> people posed with props or dressed up in > strangers > >>> clothes, for effect. > >>> > >>> Exposure times were long and the gear cumbersome > -- > >>> none of this zippy whiz-bang digital ease, eh > ;-) > >>> > >>> So they made sure the picture looked "right," > even > >>> though it was "wrong." Plus ?a change... > >>> > >>> Emanuel Lowi > >>> Montreal > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ______________________________________________________________________ > >>> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug > for more information > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug > for more information > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug > for more information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug > for more information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug > for more information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug > for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for > more information >