Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/08/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Right, Nathan. Although oddly enough, I find that with digital I am shooting fewer images per shoot, rather than more - although I am shooting far more for frequently for myself than I was, simply because there's no cost factor. But my number of IPH for a day-long shoot has definitely dropped. -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Wajsman Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:26 AM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] The cat came back... Hi B.D., You are absolutely right that we are poor editors of our own work. The problem becomes especially acute for those who shoot digital, since the number of images from any given event is usually much greater and hence the editing task harder. So, yes, like everyone else I prefer to get reactions to everything I post but I accept that sometimes people just look. At least, thanks to the tools offered by my hosting provider, I can see that people do look. Nathan B. D. Colen wrote: > The problem with doing any projects by and for ourselves is that we > are ALL our own worst editors. Everyone, no matter how experienced or > how good, needs editing, and should benefit from constructive > criticism and comment. > > But I share Jim's pain, and often feel that posting anything of a > photographic nature to the LUG is a waste of bandwidth. ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf > Of Nathan Wajsman > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:43 AM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] The cat came back... > > > Hi Jim, > > Do not be discouraged by lack of response. In the final analysis you > are > > doing this PAW project for yourself. Of course we all enjoy getting > feedback, but most people do not comment most of the time. I personally > respond on-list to images where I feel that I have something > constructive/intelligent/funny/whatever to say that the wider audience > might be interested in or that might start a good thread. Otherwise, if > I see an outstanding image, I just drop a private message to the poster. > > Most of the time I just look and move on--but I do look at almost all > PAWs. I did not get any comments on the PAWs I posted this week, but > that's fine--I can see from the webalizer tool that a lot of people have > > looked at them, which is fine. > > On the picture in question, I largely agree with Lea's comments: a > nice > family/fun snap which probably is much more meaningful to you than to a > global audience of strangers. But if YOU like an image, then post it! > > Nathan > > Jim McIntyre wrote: > >>Hello LUG >> >>I unsubscribed a few weeks ago. I was a little annoyed with some of >>the off-topic chatter, the "cliquish" and self-serving dialogue, and >>the general meandering of the group, etc. More to the point, I posted >>5 PAW's in a row, and got zero -- nada -- feedback. I'm under no >>delusions that I'm the next HBC, or anything close, but I do think I >>have something to offer. And I really do appreciate feedback -- >>laudatius or otherwise. The lack of response is worse than negative >>(and hopefully constructive) feedback. It's like talking to a dead >>phone line.... >> >>However, I have been checking the LUG archives, and looking at the >>posts. I've skipped over the more off-topic messages (which admittedly > > >>can be quite entertaining and educational), stayed away from the >>vitriolic political threads, and checked all the PAW and photograph >>postings I could. The truth is I have valued the feedback I have >>received in the past, and knowing I had an "obligation" to keep up my >>PAW activities for the LUG kept me active with my camera (no small >>challenge with rebuilding a career and 3 kids...). >> >>So I'm back. And to put my money where my keyboarding is, I've posted >>a PAW: >> >>http://members.rogers.com/jmcdesigns/jamesstreet/2004-33.htm >> >>Slam away, lambaste me for using my nieces and daughter as convenient >>subjects, but please, let me know you took the time to view my work, >>and by all means let know what I can do to improve. No photographer >>should work in vacuum...except to remove the dust from the negatives! >> >>ciao... >> >>Jim >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > -- Nathan Wajsman Almere, The Netherlands General photography: http://www.nathanfoto.com Seville photography: http://www.fotosevilla.com _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information