[Leica] More RD-1 Samples

[frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE)]

Exactly the point I have been trying to make on this
list at least once a week for the past 2 years.
Frank

--- "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote: >
When are people going to get this - The digicams
> ALL, I don't care what
> brand, produce noisy images at 400 iso because of
> the tiny sensor size,
> while the DSLRs, whether Canon, Nikon, or Olympus,
> produce much, much
> better images at that sensitivity. Period.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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>
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> On Behalf Of
> FRANK DERNIE
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 4:33 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] More RD-1 Samples
> 
> 
> I only judge my prints, not numbers. If I believed
> the
> numbers I would still believe 35mm film is better
> than
> large sensor digital whereas a quick glance at a
> print
> shows that it is not. At iso100 my digi 2 clone is
> superb, at 400iso it is way behind my canon eos 10D.
> Perhaps crucial parts are hand selected and the best
> ones fitted to the Leicas and less good to the much
> cheaper Panasonic branded cameras. I don't say my
> prints are not good from my almost Digi2, just that
> the Canon ones are better, a great deal so at
> 400asa+,
> probably because the sensor is bigger than a
> fingernail!
> Frank
> 
> --- Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> wrote: > FRANK
> DERNIE
> offered:
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] More RD-1 Samples
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi Ted,
> > > I have the Panasonic lika digi 2. It is nowhere
> > near
> > > as good as my APS sized sensor digi SLR so is
> > unlikely
> > > to be anywhere near as good as a properly
> > engineered
> > > digi rangefinder with a reasonably sized
> > sensor.<<<<
> > 
> > Hi Frank,
> > I guess I have to borrow a few digi cameras so I
> can
> > see what the difference
> > is in quality one onto the other. Because when I
> > look at 13X19 prints from
> > the Digilux 2, I have a hard time imagining a
> > better, sharper, more detailed
> > photograph than it produces off an Epson 2200
> > printer.
> > 
> > I know those $9 - $10 grand SLR's make a
> difference
> > due to a larger capture
> > sensor. My son has a couple of them for his sports
> > work and without question
> > there's a difference. But anything I've seen from
> 4
> > - 5- 6 mgp's doesn't
> > appear to make any difference to my eye.
> > 
> > Now given I'm a quintessential digi cam / print
> > rookie, I assume my eye
> > isn't fine tuned to the nuances of digi quality
> from
> > the lesser size
> > sensors. And or the inner electronic capabilities
> > with each camera.
> > 
> > Given I've shot 99.9% of my digi shooting over the
> > past 5 months with the
> > Digi 2 set to auto everything, I'm still blown
> away
> > with the quality out
> > doors & indoors by available light. Not only that,
> > it's the quality of the
> > after prints when one can see pores in the skin in
> a
> > portrait style H&S. I
> > figure any better than these and we'll see under
> the
> > skin! ;-)
> > 
> > Sure I want to use the best there is in equipment,
> > if the bigger the chip
> > the better final print, that's fine. However, I
> > don't want it so
> > sophisticated and expensive that it's beyond the
> > human eye to see the
> > difference between say a 5 sensor and a 10 sensor.
> > (Just using fictitious
> > numbers here.)
> > 
> > Particularly when the bottom line is, it's some
> > techie computer geek playing
> > a numbers game when we can't discern the
> difference
> > with our eyes. Not to
> > mention the "more is better syndrome" then
> > corporations stick it to the
> > buyers for more money, when in reality not a human
> > in a thousand can see the
> > difference.
> > 
> > How far off am I?
> > 
> > ted
> > 
> > 
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