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Subject: [Leica] Kodak and "digital"
From: dorysrus at mindspring.com (Don Dory)
Date: Thu Jul 15 18:50:37 2004

George,
For three reasons I would prefer to sell to the consumer.  First, consumers 
and small retailers do not bargain as well as companies doing these ads. 
Throw in third party consumables and the profits are slimmer.

Second, the number of firms you mention means that the market is fragmented 
in ten ways that you have mentioned.  With ten players bidding for business 
margins start to get pretty slim.

Third, there are billions and billions of snapshots printed every year, I 
suspect if we did the math we would get one of those circle the world six 
times kind of numbers.  Lots of players on the retail end, increasingly only 
one and a half players on the wholesale end.

This is analogous to the question of would you like to be number three of a 
billion dollar market or number one in a three billion dollar market.

0.02

Don
dorysrus@mindspring.com

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org 
[mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
George Lottermoser
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: [Leica] Kodak and "digital"

Not sure if we've decided if "digital" is a proper word or not.

Anyway - Regarding Kodak and Printers and Papers and Inks et al.
Encad is a wholly owned subsidiary of Kodak. We're talking large format 
inkjet with "photo-quality prints at speeds of 220 square feet per hour. 
Making it the fastest printer in its class. Quality. Productivity. 
Reliability." So they say.

The above from Digital Graphics magazine, August 04 - a Buyers Guide 
edition, wherein you'll see names like: Agfa, Durst, Eastman Kodak, Canon 
(in the 54"-72" wide category), getting into huge roll feed and flat bed 
(rigid material handling) inkjet printers running 24/7. So our little old 
film, paper and enlarger buddies are out banging heads with 3M, Roland, 
Mutoh, Seiko, Scitex, Xerox (epson doesn't even have an ad). 

Measure up the square feet of urban ad, and exhibit propaganda throughout 
the world and compare it to the 4"x6" prints rolling out of your one hour 
photo mart and/or your hour and half of printing from your 13x19 2200. Which 
paper/ink market would you like to take a cut of?

We live in interesting times.

Fond regards,

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