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Subject: [Leica] 50mm F1.4 redux, or on the need for speed.
From: s.dimitrov at (Slobodan Dimitrov)
Date: Wed Jun 30 05:37:54 2004

Unfortunately, none of this has subsided, period attitude or not. Values are
as easily transmittable as DNA. Human behavior being additive, and not
subtractive, where would those values go?
No one, and I mean no one, individually or as a group, is free from those
Some time ago, I toyed with the thought, that these are vestigial remnants
of guilt, from our collective extermination of the other human species not
too long ago.  
S. Dimitrov

> From: Adam Bridge <>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <>
> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:25:22 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] 50mm F1.4 redux, or on the need for speed.
> Well the criticism is drivel of the worst kind, but a portrait of
> Disney is very complicated. I remember a piece in, of all places,
> American Heritage, that wasn't kind and that dated from the period
> right after his death.
> Still, it's important to place Disney in his times, something modern
> "critics" are loath to do, and for his time he was much more
> mainstream than otherwise. I say this remembering my own distress at
> hearing my own parents anti-Semitism and racial bigotry. It's easy to
> toss rocks at the value systems of the past. Far more difficult to
> hold an accurate mirror up for our own individual actions.
> It will be interesting to see our our own cultures are judged 100
> years from now. More humanely, I hope.
> Adam
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:36:42 -0700, Mark Rabiner <>
> wrote:
>> On 6/29/04 5:05 PM, "Slobodan Dimitrov" <> wrote:
>>> They don't allow any non-union shooters on the sets. The exception would 
>>> be
>>> someone from a publication doing an editorial piece. Friends of the 
>>> producer
>>> with a camera would be another exception.
>>> S. Dimitrov
>> " Disney projected his own sense of alienation onto "others" in Hollywood,
>> namely, Jews, blacks, and union workers. In retaliation against the studio
>> moguls, who were predominantly Jewish, he refused to employ Jews in
>> high-level positions at his studio or as actors in his live-action 
>> features.
>> Not until 1969, two years after Disney's death, did a Jewish actor, Buddy
>> Hackett, feature prominently in a Disney film, The Love Bug. Disney 
>> Studios
>> also denied black workers even minimal opportunities, as technicians and
>> support personnel."
>> Walt had his own little rep company of actors alright.
>> Mark Rabiner
>> Photography
>> Portland Oregon
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