Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/06/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Okay, since Clive said it first, I'll wade in. Look at these images, and Joe's otherwise appealing snake sequence, I want to throw-up; the bokeh is really, really disturbing, a bit like looking through a bottle bottom on acid. I'm someone who normally doesn't 'see' bokeh, and doesn't consider it particularly importance. But this lens is the exception to that rule. I can see using the Nocti when there's no other way to get the shot - which means capturing images in near darkness, when even 1.4 at 1/15th won't do the trick, or when you need a faster shutter speed, and the Noct. Will allow you to go up to 1/30th or 1/60th. But under those circumstances, most of the image will be in deep shadow anyway, so the bokeh isn't jarring. But I just don't get the idea of using this lens in relatively normal to normal light, when any number of other film and lens combinations will do the trick. In both these posted cases, Mitch and Joe were using relatively slow film. And Mitch had to shoot at 1/1000th to be able to shoot at f1. Yes, it's nice to isolate the subject, but another lens at f 1.4 or even f 2 would provide good isolation - without the smeary, swirly, blurs. Just my opinion - rarely humble, but usually honest. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Clive Moss Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:29 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] New Noct images - A walk in the woods On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:35:32 -0400, Mitch Zeissler <mitch.zeissler@verizon.net> wrote: > > Here are a few shots from a recent walk in the woods, including one > that shows how many cicadas some of the trees had: > > http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1ssgc/Noct/Sugarloaf/index.htm > MP; Noct; Portra 160NC @ EV 100; F/1.0@1/1000th & slower ... I really like the pattern effect in the first one http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1ssgc/Noct/Sugarloaf/2004_06_12_sugarloaf_0 01.htm but the Noctiblob in the lower right is distracting. -- Clive http://clive.moss.net _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information