Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/06/21

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Subject: [Leica] The 180 Summicron/noctilux
From: s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal)
Date: Mon Jun 21 05:30:53 2004
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yes of course
stupid of me .Thanks for pointing it out .
simon
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-43722.html
>
> But, surely, it was taken stopped down at least two stops, no?
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 5:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The 180 Summicron/noctilux
>
>
> > A p.s.
> > the noctilux was my excuse to switch to Leica and though i still can not
> use
> > it well (i,m still all over , turn the rings the wrong way stuff like
> that.
> > Highly annoying lack of coordination .Must be getting old.35 is more or
> less
> > prime for pilots)
> > my favourate pictures are all taken with it.
> > http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-50817.html
> > http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-43722.html
> > http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-52892.html
> > http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-52892.html
> > http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-68624.html
> > http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/image-61224.html
> >
> > At the time i could not have done them with any other lens.
> > I would not have done any better with the 180 would I?
> > yes i know i,m no good so that,s meaningless probably but still
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl>
> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 9:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] The 180 Summicron
> >
> >
> > > Well i cannot accurately focus a moving target at f1 with a m at
ranges
> up
> > > to 1.5 meters.
> > > Weight is no factor i had no problem with a nikon 300 2.8 .
> > > And as you point out it is not easy to find a subject plane that is
> truely
> > > perpendicular to the lenses axis.
> > > one eye unsharp with faces for instance.That and the narrower dof at
> close
> > > range is holding me back.
> > > I have 2 nice offers for a 180.
> > > For my birthday i got the book portraits from Mario Testino and i
> noticed
> > > that many pictures have the plane of focus in front of the face often
on
> a
> > > shoulder with the eyes just behind.
> > > That cannot be misfocusing  and is a nice solution to the problem
> > producing
> > > a flattering softness around the eyes of the older then 20 .
> > > My Canon using sport pro friend showed me what a 180 can do on an eos
at
> > > close range with a fast subject(cookie at speed) and as one would
expect
> > > just as with the old F5 and the like focus tracking and speed is spot
on
> > as
> > > is exposure all at 7fps or so maybe 8 i forgot.
> > > So I guess it would be wisest for me to practise with the m3 and learn
> how
> > > to develop fast film
> > > And wait for a digital full frame(why not larger?) back with a m mount
.
> > > The ones on offer here also have Rom contacts and my leicaflex sl has
> not
> > a
> > > working meter  so i,d have to get a R8 as well i think.
> > > And all that for as yet unknown subject matter.Would be a bit stupid.
> > > But as usual you pulled me over the line and i,ll buy it.
> > > fond regards
> > > simon jessurun
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Some have questioned whether the 180 Summicron is really useable at
> F2.
> > > > Oh my yes, if you can focus a Noctilux then you can focus the 180.
> > > > Depth of field is an issue, but if you think about your shot then
you
> > > > can control the focal plane by moving the film plane parallel.  As
to
> > > > being heavy and not suitable for hand holding, bah.  F2 gives you
the
> > > > fastest shutter speed possible in the light available and the
focusing
> > > > screen on an R8 is more than up to the task.  I'll have to dig up
the
> > > > shots I took with this lens at the Leica Seminar at shutter speeds
> down
> > > > to 1/8th: not perfectly sharp but as reportage priceless.
> > > >
> > > > Late last year I could not take advantage of a good buy, but if
> > > > something similar comes along, I will pick one up in a heart beat.
> > > >
> > > > 0.02
> > > > Don
> > > > dorysrus@mindspring.com
> > > >
> > > >
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