Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/06/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Yeah, these things were done to avenge the brutalities inflicted by the US. And one side was touted as bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq. Which side was that? When? Like I wrote earlier, this is the kind of democracy CIA (and other US organisations) have been TEACHING in the pro-US dictatorships in Latin America, Southeast Asia, Africa etc. Now the US do the dirty work by themselves and - surprise, surprise - get the digital-age publicity as well. I suppose it would even have been possible to find some CIA trained torturers left in the Saddam?s police. I?d like to see the Americans show some respect to other people instead of being so arrogant and hypocritical - to say nothing about the stupidity of the Bush administration. Just more perspective - longer. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http:\\www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Dory" <dorysrus@mindspring.com> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:04 PM Subject: RE: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos > Hmmm, > Four contractors are drug from their trucks, beaten, dismembered, drug > through the streets, burned, then hung from a bridge. No nukes there. > > A young man has his head cut off slowly in front of the cameras while > Akbar Allah is chanted. No nukes there either nor any primordial > sludge. > > Just a different perspective on things. > > Don > dorysurs@mindspring.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf > Of B. D. Colen > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:43 PM > To: 'Leica Users Group' > Subject: RE: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos > > More like into the primordial sludge... ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > Feli di Giorgio > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:28 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: RE: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos > > > On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 19:13, Marc James Small wrote: > > > You know Marc, somehow I get the feeling if the Iraqi's had done the > same to our boys and pictures had been published, you and most of the > rest of America would be demanding that we nuke the place into the stone > age. > > Feli > > > > There is no evidence, none at all, that any rapes or murders occurred > > at Abu Grahib, merely accusations. As is the case with most US > > citizens, I will await the developments which occur with the six > > investigations underway. Obviously, if there were such acts > > committed, then there will be prosecutions for such actions. As the > > record stands at present, though, no one was killed at the prison nor > > physically assaulted: all the hard evidence we have shows merely > > humiliations of various sorts being inflicted on Iraqi prisoners. > > > > The death rate at Abu Grahib is in line with that experienced in US > > prisons and is somewhat lower than that normally experienced in POW > > camps over the past 70 years. This is hardly a red flag, despite the > > claims of wild-eyed fanatics thirsting most mightily to denigrate the > > US effort in Iraq. > > > > Finally, pray, quit bringing up Rush Limbaugh in your responses to my > > postings. I detest him as the compromiser which he has proven to be, > > as is also the case with Hannaday and Michael Reagan. Now, Boortz is > > a refreshing difference: I often don't agree with him but appreciate > > the spirit in which he approaches a problem. And Ken Hamblin is also > > worth the listening, and for the same reason -- I am philosophically > > far closer to Hamblin than to Boortz. > > > > Marc > > > > msmall@infionline.net FAX: +540/343-7315 > > Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir! > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information