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Subject: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos
From: tim at KairosPhoto.com (Tim Atherton)
Date: Tue Jun 1 10:31:39 2004

> The death rate at Abu Grahib is in line with that experienced in
> US prisons
> and is somewhat lower than that normally experienced in POW camps over the
> past 70 years.  This is hardly a red flag, despite the claims of wild-eyed
> fanatics thirsting most mightily to denigrate the US effort in Iraq.

Marc,

so could you give us, for example, the comparative figures for deaths in Abu
Grahib and other detention and interrogation centres in Iraq and say,
Italian and German POW's held in Britain during WWII? Or German POW's held
in Canada during the same period?

A quick bit of research shows, for example, that in one series of POW camps
in one US State which held a total of 22,000 German POW's over a period of 3
years a total of 41 prisoners died, only 4 of which were listed as dying
from "un-natural" causes.

Again one POW camp in Canada had 12,500 prisoners over a three year+ period
and had 22 prisoner deaths (which include 5 executed for the murder of two
fellow prisoners) The rest listed as accidental (prisoners were working on
farms etc) and a small number of suicides.

But I'm assuming you have more comprehensive figures.

Even so, this doesn't strike me as a very high percentage?


tim



22 German prisoners that died in Lethbridge. Five of those were prisoners
who were sentenced to death by the Canadian Government and hung for the
murder of two fellow prisoners in the Medicine Hat Camp. Most of the deaths
that occurred were accidental but some were suicidal.


Replies: Reply from bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos)
In reply to: Message from msmall at infionline.net (Marc James Small) ([Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos)