[Leica] The Horror, The Horror

[jls at runbox.com (Jeffery Smith)]

Not just the 10th amendment, but others. This one pretty much summarizes
what happens if you try to photograph a building or photograph near a
building. I got stopped and hassled by a sheriff for trying to
photograph a blue heron about 70 miles downriver from here. Too close to
a refinery to allow photography.

Amendment IV - The right of the people to be secure in their persons,
houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,
shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable
cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA


-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Dan
Post
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 5:18 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror

BD-
The thing that struck me, aside from the stupidity of the guards, was
the
part of the article about congress limiting who and what could be
photographed. Not only is this a clear intrusion on the tenth amendment,
but
it seems like a start up the 'slippery slope' of abridging the first
amendment. So far, street photographers are banned from taking shot in
and
around subways, as I understand, and possibly in other venues of public
transportation. Who is to say that there might not be a ban on
photographing
interesting looking people since the attention might be construed as
something sinister- photographing ugly people might hurt their self
esteem,
or photographing people eating might cause some mental trauma in the
'victims'.
As far as Abu Ghraib is concerned- I did not see any dead bodies, no-one
was
bleeding, and there were no stacks of gassed or mutilated corpses, nor
decapitated journalists to be seen. I am not condoning the behavior- by
and
large we are above such things, and what was done was disgusting. I must
say, however, that if humiliating, and denigrating someone is a crime,
then
some of the Reponses I've seen on this list would damn near be felonies!
Best of light to you!
Dan




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 4:04 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror


> What does, Simon? The photographs, or the discussion of them by Fred
> Ritchin, former photo editor of New York Magazine, former Executive
> Editor of Camera Arts Magazine, and  founding director of the
> Photojournalism and Documentary Photography Program at the
International
> Center of Photography?
>
> Since the site invites responses, perhaps you should write one? ;-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf
Of
> animal
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:46 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror
>
>
> it makes me sick
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror
>
>
> > Why not might be the most appropriate answer.
> >
> > But why? Let me see: because this is above all, a list of people who
> > are supposedly interested in things photographic; because the
> > presentation relates to the role of photography in the modern world;
> > because the presentation relates to how the uses of photography may
or
>
> > may not reflect our social values; because it's interesting to read
> > varying viewpoints on issues on public importance.
> >
> > Oh, wait, Animal asked this question.
> > Never mind - the presentation in question has nothing to do the with
> > ultimate resolving power of a lens, as measured by photographing
> > technical charts from a balloon suspended 1,000 feet in the air -
> >
> > So Simon, don't waste your time on it.
> >
> >
> > B. D.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> > Of animal
> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:17 PM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror
> >
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> > To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:11 PM
> > Subject: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror
> >
> >
> > > http://www.pixelpress.org/horror_text.html
> > >
> > > A MUST see....and read...
> > >
> > > B. D.
> > >
> > >
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