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Subject: [Leica] That's it, I'm throwing my cameras in the river
From: s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal)
Date: Wed Apr 28 15:45:04 2004
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sorry for interrupting your conversation I wont do it again
simon

| What is this supposed to mean, and what does it supposedly have to do
with
| people taking photos simply because they will be terrific photos?
|
|
| On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:48:29 +0200, animal <s.jessurun95@chello.nl>
wrote:
|
| > Beasts want to be on top of every hill , king of the world .
| > There is no harm in that is there?
| > We all want to say look mammy what i have done occasionally don,t
we?
| > Rule the world with a magic feather?
| > simon
| >
| >
| >
| > | No, it doesn't explain why someone takes a snap of Skipper and
Sissy,
| > but
| > | theoretically people on this list think of themselves as
| > "photographers."
| > |
| > | And, no, I would not flunk her because she had one, or even
several,
| > | photos in her project that weren't good picks.
| > | But she showed the photo in question independently, as her PAW for
the
| > | past week - students are required to produce one photo a week that
can
| > be
| > | viewed as telling a story - and that one does. In terms of her
| > project, it
| > | is one of several showing that one of the 'clients' at the center
was
| > | upset, and several  people, including his 'girlfriend,' whose hand
was
| > in
| > | the photo, was one of those people...
| > |
| > | But the point I was trying to make, is that I think she hit the
| > proverbial
| > | nail on the head in terms of why "photographers" take photos -
they
| > take
| > | them for the same reason that mountain climbers give for climbing
| > | mountains - because they're there!
| > | :-)
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:33:14 -0400, Phong <phong@doan-ltd.com>
wrote:
| > |
| > | > B.D.,
| > | >
| > | > That is only partially true, and I suppose
| > | > more so for "photographers".  The majority
| > | > of the people who take photos are not
| > | > photographers.  They just want a snapshot
| > | > of someone, or something that interest
| > | > them.  Even I do this sometimes, though
| > | > I would never show the result to another
| > | > photographer, especially on the LUG.  :-)
| > | >
| > | > Anyway, your story raises and answers
| > | > the question of why your student takes
| > | > that photo.  It does not address why
| > | > she chose that photo to show.  Clearly,
| > | > if it does not fit her project, or the story
| > | > she wants to tell, it would not be included,
| > | > no matter how great the photo is.  Otherwise
| > | > you would flunk her, wouldn't you ?   :-)
| > | >
| > | > - Phong
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > B. D. Colen wrote:
| > | >>
| > | >> About 'our' motivation to photograph.
| > | >>
| > | >> This past Saturday, my students were showing roughs of their
| > semester
| > | >> projects. One young woman has been shooting at a center for the
| > | >> developmentally disabled - aw, hell, the retarded - focusing on
an
| > art
| > | >> program they have. She showed an image that was a close up of
two
| > | >> people's hands awkwardly touching - a striking image - and my
TA
| > noted
| > | >> that this image was a good one for us to think about in terms
of
| > | >> addressing the question 'when is photo journalism/documentary
| > | >> photography, voyeurism?' So we talked about it for a while and
then
| > I
| > | >> asked the student, 'why did you take this photo?' Her response:
| > | >>
| > | >> "I thought it would be a great photo!" No bullshit. No 'I want
to
| > help
| > | >> people.' No BS about 'understanding.' Just the bottom line -
she's
| > a
| > | >> photographer, and the image leapt out at her. And that, in my
| > humble
| > | >> opinion, is what IT really is all about.
| > | >>
| > | >> We may take photos for various economic, personal, political,
| > | >> journalistic reasons. But if we really are the beast called
| > | >> photographers, it call comes down to "I thought it would be a
great
| > | >> photo!"
| > | >
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Replies: Reply from bdcolen at mit.edu (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] That's it, I'm throwing my cameras in the river)
In reply to: Message from phong at doan-ltd.com (Phong) ([Leica] That's it, I'm throwing my cameras in the river)
Message from bdcolen at mit.edu (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] That's it, I'm throwing my cameras in the river)
Message from s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal) ([Leica] That's it, I'm throwing my cameras in the river)
Message from bdcolen at mit.edu (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] That's it, I'm throwing my cameras in the river)