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Subject: [Leica] The Wall, Ted Grants message, and names
From: daniel_ridings at yahoo.se (Daniel Ridings)
Date: Fri Apr 16 12:05:24 2004
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So true ...

I just came back from an exhibit, tastefully done without
the moral lessons, of another wall. The one in Israel. I
think it's coming up on the web eventually.

Makes one ... not feel like fighting.

Daniel

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004, B. D. Colen wrote:

> They certainly are important, if for no other reason than that they make
> it harder to forget.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Sander van Hulsenbeek
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:49 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Wall, Ted Grants message, and names
>
>
> Ted wrote:
>
> > News stories and tv footage were one thing, but 51,000 names plus? Man
>
> > that's a whole new ball game of mixed emotions!
>
> Yes, and it is. As an European I recognize that, and though I have not
> visited The Wall, I can imagine it would have put tears in my eyes too.
>
> As did a visit to Yad Vashem, the Holocaust Memorial in Jerusalem, to
> me, more than 25 years ago. Their website now mentions 2 million names,
> and counting, as they say:
>
> http://www.yad-vashem.org.il/remembrance/index_remembrance.html
>
> The International Day of reflection on the Ruanda Genocide was only a
> week ago! :  http://www.un.org/events/rwanda/
>
> The question is: where is this world going. Not on one side of the
> Atlantic, on both! And monuments; are they important?
>
> Sander
> Amsterdam
> Holland
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 4:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Wall
>
>
> > > The traveling version of the Viet Nam Memorial is in Natchitoches,
> > > just two blocks from my house.  This may not be the last you see of
> > > it from me.
> > >
> > > http://www.sonc.com/wall1.htm<<<<
> >
> >
> > Hi Sonny,
> > Well done mon ami as it's one of the most emotionally moving monuments
>
> > to visit in real and I imagine the moving one carries the same
> > feeling. How could it not? And you've captured it very well with it's
> > emotional impact
> .
> >
> > I mean "war memorials" the world over are usually quite spectacular in
> size
> > and what they represent. However, "The Wall" not only is spectatular
> > in
> size
> > and design, it has the emotions of so many people emanating from it
> > that whether one is an American or not you feel it very deeply!
> >
> > The Russian "Great Patriotic War" monument from WW2, as Canada's Vimy
> Ridge
> > Memorial in France, they are spectacular in size and beauty, but
> > neither
> has
> > the same emotional effect as The Vietnam Memorial in Washington.
> >
> > I was on assignment a few years ago and down time occured, so the
> first
> > place I headed was  "The Wall."   Whew!  what an emotional experience,
> not
> > only the size, but it's the names, on and on and on! My God each and
> > everyone of them was a mother's son or daughter. And that's what
> > grabbed
> me,
> > the names all in alphebetical order each and everyone a human being.
> >
> > News stories and tv footage were one thing, but 51,000 names plus? Man
>
> > that's a whole new ball game of mixed emotions!
> >
> > Your photograph, although only a small portion of it, carries the kind
>
> > of emotional strength in it's simplicty of shadow, hand and names just
>
> > as effective as being there. Once again, well done.
> >
> > ted..
> >
> >
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