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Subject: [Leica] 35f1.4Asph, Nik28f1.4, 35f1.4non-Asph
From: dante at umich.edu (Dante Stella)
Date: Mon Apr 5 19:02:08 2004
References: <005701c41b12$d9d06110$6401a8c0@CCA4A5EF37E11E>

The size is not a big deal - I have a 28/1.4 Nikkor, a 35/1.4 Summilux 
ASPH, and a 35/2 LTM Hexanon.  I am trying to figure out whether I 
really need both 35mm lenses for my Hexar RF with something like the 28 
on a Nikon as the "other" setup.

The 28 fits my Nikon F4 and Kodak 14n.  On the F4, at least, the lens 
is bright enough that the finder is about equal brightness to what you 
are looking at through it.  It also focuses extremely quickly with no 
fuss, even with the F4's primitive (relatively) but accurate AF setup.  
It is also interesting because I can use it with the D screen I built 
for the camera.   On the 14n, the 28 does not make the finder much 
brighter, but it really seems to be extending the range of what I can 
do at a comfortable 160 ISO.  It's also nice and wide on a full frame 
chip.  The 28 is fantastically sharp wide-open, and it can deliver that 
to digital as well.

On the Hexar RF, I have been taking the Summilux ASPH on trips - it is 
small and light, but as someone said, it does have a hardass aspect to 
it.  For most of what I do, I could probably get away with using the 
35/2.  The Hexanon makes very pretty images, well-tamed and well 
balanced (essentially, it's a screwmount version of the 4th Summicron - 
only prettier).  But that Summilux ASPH is soooo good.... my precious!

Cheers
Dante

On Apr 5, 2004, at 9:35 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:

> Sorry, Tom - I've owned the 28 1.4 Nikon lens, and while it is an
> excellent lens, it's about the size of a Maxwell House Coffee can - it
> makes the 35 1.4 asph look like a jewled miniature.
>
> As to table top photography - How would one do table-top photography
> with a wide angle lens that only focuses to about 28 inches? That's not
> what the lens is for....And as for the bokeh issue. Yes, the bokeh is
> softer with the pre-asph M 35 1.4 than it is with the ASPH...but so is
> the entire image. :-) And I can honestly say I've never shot an image
> with the ASPH whose bokeh fits your description of the bokeh.
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Thomas Pastorello
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 4:02 PM
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Subject: [Leica] 35f1.4Asph, Nik28f1.4, 35f1.4non-Asph
>
>
>    If I may, I'll respond to two email issues at the
> same time.
>    Leica 35mm f1.4 ASPH vs. Nikkor 28mm f1.4:
> I agree to a large degree with Mark's comparison, but
> there is one area of use in which the Nikkor 28 is
> superior and unsurpassed -- close-up work, esp. table
> top or museum display.  Wide-open and close up, the 35
> 1.4 ASPH has such poor bokeh that the out of focus
> image area actually shatters!  Its harshness ruins
> this type of photography for me.  The Nikkor 28
> renders wide-open close-up images beautifully.  (I
> also don't see the 28 as so big and noisy.  The Nikkor
> 14 f2.8 or 17-35 f2.8 -- now those are big and noisy.)
>    Leica 35mm f1.4 ASPH vs. non-ASPH:
> Ditto!  The non-ASPH offers beautiful wide-open
> close-up images.  The only limitation I see of this
> all-time best Leica classic is that it does not get as
> close as the ASPH and certainly not as close as the
> Nikkor 28.
>    Tom
>
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