Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/03/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Amen to that! B&W, (Plus-X) is all that I could afford 35+ years ago... I don't think that I've used it since. Jim - http://www.hemenway.com Sonny Carter wrote: > hmmm, there's an idea that makes me want to hit the snooze button on the > alarm and roll over! A BW only digital camera! Seems an absolutly dumb > idea to pay for features you don't get. > > There was a time when I could only afford Black and white photography. > I lived in Germany, and maybe three times a year, I would invest in a > roll of Kodachrome, usually when we were going off to Switzerland. What > a luxury! Color! > > > > > B. D. Colen wrote on 3/28/2004, 5:46 AM: > > > And notice how quickly the Kodak camera disappeared - in fact, did it > > ever actually make it to market? It was to have an 18 megp grayscale > > image...the idea was really exciting...but... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org > > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > > Henning Wulff > > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:51 PM > > To: Leica Users Group > > Subject: RE: [Leica] More RD-1 news > > > > > > At 12:46 PM -0800 3/27/04, Adam Bridge wrote: > > >On Saturday, March 27, 2004 B. D. Colen thoughtfully wrote: > > > > > >>First off, one of the glories of digital is that every single shot is > > >>both color and monochrome. ;-) Second off, it should be possible to > > >>have the monochrome option in the firmware. If they develop the write > > >>algorithms, having the b&w, bw-green, bw-red, bw-yellow built into > > >>the camera could be wonderful. Carry around a pile of filters? Why? > > > > > >Aaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhh! > > > > > >NO, B. D., it's NOT the same. Because IF you're not shooting onto a > > >color sensor > > >you can either have MORE sensors for a higher pixel density OR you can > > larger > > >sensors for a better signal:noise ratio. Otherwise you're letting the > > firmware > > >of the camera play Hobb by attempting to make a monochrome image from > > various > > >parts of red and green and blue. > > > > When Kodak did their B&W digital camera, the advantages weren't all > > that great over colour cameras. What has changed since then? > > > > >It's not the same thing at all. Why shoot with black and white film > > >at all then? > > >Why not just shoot color? But we DO shoot black and white. But even > > this isn't > > >as great a difference as between a digital color and a digital > > monochrome > > >sensor. > > > > > >When the color sensors are of sufficient density and the SNR is up to > > >par then I'll relax this. But it's damn clear that Leica ain't likely > > >to have access to anything that's remotely close. > > > > > >So why shouldn't I ask for something that makes a lot of sense? > > >Using an M to me > > >means shooting in available light without flash. And all those > > fabulously > > >expensive pieces of glass that Leica makes are there to make it even > > more > > >possible. > > > > > >So why shouldn't Leica make a camera that exploits these features > > >like no other > > >camera can - that uses all the system's capabilities so that, by > > >golly, you can > > >shoot at ASA 3200 or even higher and have a SNR like that of the best > > current > > >cameras at, say 1600 (thinking of 1Ds and its CMOS sensor). > > > > > >Leica is a niche market. If they can figure out how to deal with the > > >process in > > >order to make it happen then there will be a reason to consider > > investing in > > >Leica. > > > > > >We're seeing an increase in interest in black and white portraiture. > > >Why not a camera that does it superbly? > > > > > >Adam Bridge > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Leica Users Group. > > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > -- > > * Henning J. Wulff > > /|\ Wulff Photography & Design > > /###\ mailto:henningw@archiphoto.com > > |[ ]| http://www.archiphoto.com > > _______________________________________________