Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/03/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]And notice how quickly the Kodak camera disappeared - in fact, did it ever actually make it to market? It was to have an 18 megp grayscale image...the idea was really exciting...but... -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Henning Wulff Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:51 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: RE: [Leica] More RD-1 news At 12:46 PM -0800 3/27/04, Adam Bridge wrote: >On Saturday, March 27, 2004 B. D. Colen thoughtfully wrote: > >>First off, one of the glories of digital is that every single shot is >>both color and monochrome. ;-) Second off, it should be possible to >>have the monochrome option in the firmware. If they develop the write >>algorithms, having the b&w, bw-green, bw-red, bw-yellow built into >>the camera could be wonderful. Carry around a pile of filters? Why? > >Aaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhh! > >NO, B. D., it's NOT the same. Because IF you're not shooting onto a >color sensor >you can either have MORE sensors for a higher pixel density OR you can larger >sensors for a better signal:noise ratio. Otherwise you're letting the firmware >of the camera play Hobb by attempting to make a monochrome image from various >parts of red and green and blue. When Kodak did their B&W digital camera, the advantages weren't all that great over colour cameras. What has changed since then? >It's not the same thing at all. Why shoot with black and white film >at all then? >Why not just shoot color? But we DO shoot black and white. But even this isn't >as great a difference as between a digital color and a digital monochrome >sensor. > >When the color sensors are of sufficient density and the SNR is up to >par then I'll relax this. But it's damn clear that Leica ain't likely >to have access to anything that's remotely close. > >So why shouldn't I ask for something that makes a lot of sense? >Using an M to me >means shooting in available light without flash. And all those fabulously >expensive pieces of glass that Leica makes are there to make it even more >possible. > >So why shouldn't Leica make a camera that exploits these features >like no other >camera can - that uses all the system's capabilities so that, by >golly, you can >shoot at ASA 3200 or even higher and have a SNR like that of the best current >cameras at, say 1600 (thinking of 1Ds and its CMOS sensor). > >Leica is a niche market. If they can figure out how to deal with the >process in >order to make it happen then there will be a reason to consider investing in >Leica.? > >We're seeing an increase in interest in black and white portraiture. >Why not a camera that does it superbly? > >Adam Bridge > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- * Henning J. Wulff /|\ Wulff Photography & Design /###\ mailto:henningw@archiphoto.com |[ ]| http://www.archiphoto.com _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information