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Subject: Re: [Leica] OT - Queen Mary 2
From: "Greg J. Lorenzo" <gregj.lorenzo@shaw.ca>
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 16:05:52 -0700
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Hi Seth,

I would like to cruise across the Atlantic on a passenger ship like the 
Queen Mary II someday. However, I would love the opportunity to spend 
just a day aboard an aircraft carrier like the USS Nimitz. Now that 
would be fascinating, even though the "chow" might be better on a cruise 
ship.

The down side to an old sea salt (not me) is the new Queen Mary cannot 
be considered a "lucky ship" given the gangway collapse that killed 15 
or 16 people in France last month.

I agree with you the new ship looks like a  floating box and very much 
unlike the great liners of the golden age.

Regards,

Greg

Seth Rosner wrote:

>A great treat, Gerry, and many thanks. I entered the port of Southampton 25
>years ago in Queen Elizabeth II, the last of the graceful transatlantic
>liners, in S.S. France in 1964, in S.S. Statendam in 1960, and in S.S. Nieuw
>Amsterdam in 1950. Sailed westbound from le Havre in 1950 on the maiden
>voyage of S.S. Liberte (2d maiden of this ship, originally pre-WWII
>Hamburg-American ship, I think the Bremen (?) calling at Southampton en
>route for New York. Missed a call at Southampton in 1956 on a westbound
>sailing in M.S. Andrea Doria.
>
>One of the great joys of life was a transatlantic sailing, leisure, grace,
>elegance, at a level that has disappeared from modern living, helas!, unless
>one is truly rich. In the 50's and 60's one did not have to be rich (and I
>was not!) to enjoy transatlantic ocean travel: my crossing in Statendam in
>an excellent outside first class cabin cost under $300. Even in 1978, my
>crossing in QE2 in a superb outside first class cabin that entitled me to
>dine (one didn't "eat") in the Queen's Grill cost $1,600. and included a
>return flight to New York in economy on British Airways. On my return, for
>$400. I was permitted to upgrade to a BA Concorde flight; I did, certain
>that unless a client were paying, I would never have another opportunity to
>fly the Concorde. I was right.
>
>QM 2 is an impressive ship; I cannot say she is a lovely ship. She lacks the
>graceful lines of the traditional ocean liner, of which the Andrea Doria and
>her sisters, Cristoforo Colombo and Leonardo da Vinci were perhaps the most
>beautiful. While with QM2 (to my naval eye that looks suspiciously like the
>designation of a quartermaster 2d class), there is a serious effort to
>create a semblance of that appearance, she much more closely resembles the
>modern-day box-like cruising ship that pervades passenger ship-building
>today. It is an economic necessity in today's world: pack as many passengers
>as reasonably possible into the smallest possible space while still
>maintaining the appearance of spaciousness.
>
>A former sea-farer myself, I share with you the emotions that her port entry
>calls forth. Again thanks.
>
>Seth          LaK 9
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Gerry Walden" <gwpics@lycos.co.uk>
>To: "LUG" <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 11:20 AM
>Subject: [Leica] OT - Queen Mary 2
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>>If it is of interest to anyone, this weekend the largest cruise liner in
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>the
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>>world docked in Southampton ready for her naming ceremony early in
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>January.
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>>It was a great moment for the port, and for those of us who live here, to
>>see the ship arrive and to know this is her home port. The ship is 150,000
>>tons, about twice as large as the Queen Elizabeth 2. The first four shots
>>were taken in atrocious weather conditions with driving rain and heavy
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>mist,
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>>not that you would know it thanks to Photoshop!
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>>Unless you have lived your life in a port like Southampton which has been
>>home for the transatlantic trade for the last century, and saw the Titanic
>>sail, you will never understand the emotions involved. I have posted a
>>number of photos of her at
>>http://www.leica-gallery.net/gwpics/folder-6016.html for those who want to
>>see. I regret that these were not taken with a Leica, but are posted for
>>common interest.
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>>Regards
>>
>>Gerry
>>Gerry Walden LRPS
>>www.gwpics.com
>>Tel: 023 8046 3076
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Replies: Reply from Seth Rosner <sethrosner@direcway.com> (Re: [Leica] very OT and LONG - Queen Mary 2 - now some Intrepid history)
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