Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Daniel The "allemansrätt" is one of the best things of Sweden ! The only part were I have encountered problems is the difinition of "a yard" - most people, many Swedes, think of a yard as something with trimmed gras, flowers and a nice little white fence were I in my Little Torp (very small hous in the woods in Sweden) love to have my yard growing close to wild - does encounter some funny situations though most of the time, people tend to hurry away if the see me walking around half nacked with a weelbarrel - regards and happy christmas - ruben Daniel Ridings wrote: >The whole idea of a public place ... because it is, anyone and everyone is >welcome to be there, can be subject to private whims and not the same laws >that govern other public places. My definition of public places is not >"somewhere financed by tax-payers' money". > >We had a similar discussion in Gothenburg. There is a movement to publish >high quality magazines. These are then given to people who would otherwise >be pan-handling. They sell them instead of begging. > >One "mall" or "private place" tried to run them off. I forget the whole >process (I knew it was so absurd to call a mall "private" that I didn't >even pay much attention). > >We have something in Sweden called "allemansrätt" (every-man's-right). It >is not possible to put up a sign "No trespassing". It's not a law, it's >just a tradition right going back as far as anyone can remember, at least >the 1500's. > >According to "allemansrätt" I may go out pick berries, mushrooms, flowers, >fallen limbs (to make wreathes, for example. You can't cut down a tree, >but you can take branches from trees that have already fallen) or just >walk around. I can do this as long as I do not disturb the privacy of the >owner ... that is, I can't walk into their yard and pick flowers, but I >can go anywhere else on their land. I can take pictures, I can start small >fires (with discretion), I can camp out all night on their land without >asking. > >To say I can't take a picture in a mall. > >Not only wierd, but pure stupidity. I wonder where that idea comes from? > >Daniel > > >On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, B. D. Colen wrote: > > > >>What's so weird? >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Daniel >>Ridings >>Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 5:36 PM >>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>Subject: Re: [Leica] Inspired but arrested >> >> >> >> >>>After all, a Mall isn't like walking down the street, it's privately >>> >>> >>owned >> >> >>>and controlled by the rules and regulations set by the owners and no >>>amount of posturing, my rights etc., are going to let you off the >>>hook. >>> >>> >>Wierd, really wierd. >> >>Daniel >>-- >>To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >>-- >>To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >> >> >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html