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Subject: Re: [Leica] OT- War Photography
From: "Slobodan Dimitrov" <s.dimitrov@charter.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:36:53 -0800

The term "self-censored" would be the one used in this case.
Slobodan Dimitrov

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>From: sam <sam@osheaven.net>
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] OT- War Photography
>Date: Mon, Dec 15, 2003, 9:37 AM
>

> Chris, since your original message stating that the picture had been
> banned (with it's implication that it was a government action) a number
> of people have merely attempted to correct the notion that the U.S.
> government banned that photo from being seen. That's real. Individual
> editors may not use photos they have a problem with, but one would
> hardly blame the government for that. I'm not even sure it serves a
> serious purpose to frequently print such photos. I saw the picture in
> question and it in no way made me "understand" the consequences of war
> better than had I not seen it. I know that people die in war, that they
> get burned and blown-up. It might even be a flaw with some
> photojournalist to think that such photos have intrinsically more merit
> than photos of more mundane matter.
>
> Sam S
>
>
>
> Saganich, Christopher/Medical Physics wrote:
>> Yea, sure there is no official way, i.e., via fiat, yet some photos just
> can't be published somehow, at least usually no more then once.  The
> severed hand in the Post after 9/11, the guy falling from the towers, all
> quickly removed from mass public consumption.   Please, lets be real here.
>>
>> Chris Saganich
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Eric Welch
>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 4:54 PM
>> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT- War Photography
>>
>> Sam,
>>
>> You would be correct. There is no way to ban a photo in the U.S. short
>> of it being child pornography.
>>
>> On Dec 14, 2003, at 9:50 AM, sam wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Chris, I beleive you misspoke when you said the photo had been banned
>>>in  the US.
>>>
>>>Sam S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Saganich, Christopher/Medical Physics wrote:
>>>
>>>>>From the first Iraq campaign I never forgot the photo of the
>>>>>soldiers frozen and burnt in place
>>>
>>>trying to escape from his armored vehicle.  This photo was banned in
>>>the US, but a similar one
>>>has reappeared in Aperture this quarter.  I was at once shocked that a
>>>weapon we have could have
>>>such an effect, I discovered that the culprit more then likely was the
>>>use of depleted uranium tipped shells.
>>>
>>>>Chris Saganich
>>>
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>>
>> Eric
>> Calsbad, CA
>>
>> "In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us,
>> 'Make us your slaves, but feed us.'" - Dostoevsky
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